Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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Previous thread here:
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So why the constant belittling, trying to discredit and smear people, name calling, or rolls of laughter emoticon?

When people are more concerned with protecting trans ideology than protecting children at risk from paedophilic behaviour I think you deserve to be smeared.

It's simple and straightforward:

Is heterosexual sex between two people of the opposite sex or not?

Is homosexual sex between two people of the same sex or not?

Is the definition of a heterosexual relationship legally defined and safeguarded in law or not?

Is the definition of a homosexual relationship legally defined and safeguarded in law or not?

I for one haven't thrown even one insult. Or tried to insinuate anything against other posters.

Are you being serious?? My god, the lack of self awareness. No, you’re just passive aggressively telling people they’re to thick to get stuff.

Well, women that care about lesbians, will assert that they have a right to demonstrate that lesbians are female homosexuals at Pride.

Women who care about child safeguarding will assert that Pride fetish tents, and pups with erections, attracting kids, and MAPs openly talking on twitter about "finding each other" at Pride marches, is more than a little problematic.

When people argue to and fro against this, we will draw certain conclusions.

You have clearly sided with someone who is defending paedophilic behaviour at Pride. So what does that mean if not that you also defend that behaviour?

Please clarify how I’ve defended paedophilic behaviour at pride? Again, don’t take things out of context, don’t say generic BS.

There is nothing about being gay that isn't 'child friendly'. Gay people are just as boring as heterosexual people and it's really unclear why a Pride event in the middle of the day in a public space should have any more connection to fetishes than a village fete.

Exactly this. Sums it up.

Earlywalker you’ve had your comments pointed out repeatedly. Not going round in circles explaining to you what others already have.

So why the constant belittling, trying to discredit and smear people, name calling, or rolls of laughter emoticon?

You are having a laugh, arent you?

Tras on this thread have claimed safeguarding is done to parents, not event organisers or the organisations attending.

Claimed that saying lesbians can only be be biological women, is ant trans.

That pride is doesnt associate with paedophiles.

All that as been refuted. Because paedophiles lead pride parades. Fet play tents encourage children to engage. Fet play includes getting off on displaying your fetish in public, which included children (you admitted engaging children in sexual games is paedophilia), these organisation have a legal duty to safe guard and dont even clearly mark where over 18s only should and shouldnt be. Lesbians CAN only be biological women.

It's been argued against because you are factually wrong.

Males cannot be lesbians. Anyone saying otherwise, is lesbophobic.

you’ve had your comments pointed out repeatedly. Not going round in circles explaining to you what others already have

What a surprise, generic BS like I guessed. Please point out any lesbophobic comment I have made?

jessica you said I was the worse for this so I’m assuming it’ll be very easy to find lots of my lesbophobic comments.

It's not as though detractors don't agree that paedophiles will use any and every opportunity to infiltrate the mainstream.

So blurring boundaries around words, language, spaces, sexual orientation will absolutely attract paedophiles. Why wouldn't it?

Claiming that lesbians are wrong for having sexual boundaries, is exactly the in that paedophiles need.

Changing the meaning of boundaries, changing the meaning of sexuality, changing the age at which children have autonomy.

And all these instances, my list of people, binders, packers, saying that 11-year-olds should have autonomy, pup play at pride, they are all connected to trans ideology.

Sort your house out.

The bullying on here IS happening though, whether you want to accept that or not.

I was also bullied at school. I deal with bullying at work. I've also been bullied at work - I was extremely anxious and almost too ill to attend work because of it. To say that you are being bullied is also disgusting and is a tactic designed to make other posters stop engaging with you.

I haven;'t implied people are too thick to get stuff at all.
Just people seem to be determined to wilfully misunderstand.
Seems to be on purpose in some cases.

Discrediting arguments is pretty central to debate.

Agree spartacus. Discrediting people though? People piling on and Getting personal? Not so much.

What a surprise, generic BS like I guessed.

No, you are constantly going round in circles and denying things pointed out to you repeatedly. You might like to argue the same thing over and over, but I don’t have to engage in it. And I won’t. You’ve been told, repeatedly, had comments pointed out, I don’t need to do it again. I’ll keep calling it lesbophobic.

Please clarify how I’ve defended paedophilic behaviour at pride? Again, don’t take things out of context, don’t say generic BS.

My post with your quote is above. I am not repeating myself.

"Lesbians are female homosexuals" seems to be a controversial statement for some on this thread.

It also seems to be problematic on a Pride parade - despite the very origin of Pride marches being for people to assert their sexual orientation.

Sexual orientations are by their very nature exclusive - so yes, lesbians will exclude males. That's not transphobic, it is just the nature of lesbianism.

I haven;'t implied people are too thick to get stuff at all.

Yes you have.

To say that you are being bullied is also disgusting and is a tactic designed to make other posters stop engaging with you

No.
No it's not.
What do you call it when you're tried to be hounded off the board for differing opinions?
That you're sat there with hard ons?
That you're a man?
When there's a pile on of when there's only you as a lone voice (sometimes two) of lots of different posters trying to smear and discredit you and your opinion in what seems like a desperate attempt to shut you up as you haven't just gone away?
Why not just engage without the personal bollocks?

Agree spartacus. Discrediting people though? People piling on and Getting personal? Not so much

Keep cross posting
Yes this exactly

Trohmaniac

I admitted this man may be a pedophile, I said that I don’t think pride was for kids and that I don’t agree with fetish tents at pride.

I pointed out that we didn’t know if children were told to go in there or if pedophiles were enticing children and this was being accepted.

I did my own research on this too and saw this linked from FPFW.

It doesn’t sound like the intention was for children to be there which is why I talked about parents safeguarding children.

Pedophilia is wrong. My issue the whole time has been with suggestions that pedophilies are openly being pedophiles at pride and being accepted as such.

There’s a huge difference between that and what you are now saying.

What do you call it when you're tried to be hounded off the board for differing opinions?.

You mean how 10 lesbian protestors were surrounded, insulted, sworn at, shouted at, told they were welcome at a lbgt event. Because they had a different opinion?

The TRAs even tried to have them removed.

It's good to see that you have changed your mind and see that as bullying behaviour from the TRAs at pride against the group of protesters

Glad we got there