JanesKettle I believe you and others that talk about lesbians pushed out of their own spaces.
@bespin i didnt go to leeds pride this year. The reason being the gay couple i go with didnt go. They ask me and some other friends to attend with them every year. Their concerns are transgender, their concerns are the sheer number of people engaged in fetish play. Its makes them uncomfortable.
And to the pp that asked if rose ever answer a question. In my experience non of the TRAs do.
Despite being the ones that brought up the protestors shouting at a float, as though that was wrong of them, wont answer why they think a fetish float has a place there.
Wont answer what people are called when the engage children in their sexual games
Wont answer why the trans allies found it acceptable to surround the protestors, or tried to have them removed.
Wont answer why they told people to watch the video as it showed the protesters were anti trans, then changed their mind and said the video was edited to make the protesters look better.
Theres a black hole of questions to be answered and non of them do.
As I said before there are reasons women feel they cant protest. Loss of job, threats of violence, threats of rape and violence on social media, actual violence, loss of job.
I said on the last thread, where I work they wanted to make the toilets hender neutral. Plenty objected. Only 5 dared to speak to to be told we shoildnt as we would appear trans phobic. It was only stopped going ahead because the one transgender perso in the building opposed it too. Because that trans person understands that women do not want to use a toilet next to a biological male.
That's the same trans gender person, that cried when they heard about the Karen White Story, because they felt it was damaging to trans people AND to women and couldnt understand how that person had been allowed in a womens prison in the first place.
I know trans people who dont agree with the TRAs on this thread. They live in leeds and didnt attend pride either.