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Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 18:25

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RedDogsBeg · 06/08/2019 22:53

I dread to think what Bear Pride is.

It is not advocating against trans people to state that a Lesbian is a female homosexual.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:53

stranger things as finished so it will be bed time soon.

Datun · 06/08/2019 22:53

I support lesbians, I have a lot of firends who are lesbians they support me fully and see no issue with trans woman.

But in your world they are transwomen. So that's a shit argument all round.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:54

No bespin you crack on. Know you think it’s amusing. But crack on anyway

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:56

I dread to think what Bear Pride is.

and here in lays the problem, you have no idea. bears are lovely cuddly big hairy men, usually a little older. cubs are younger men that like them.

Datun · 06/08/2019 22:56

only 8 were told to leave.. Bullied and intimidated you mean.

If every lesbian had worn the definition of their, legally protected, orientation, they would all have been bullied.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:58

But in your world they are transwomen. So that's a shit argument all round.

no I have a lot of actual lesbian friends you know the proper kind. some are attracted to trans woman and some are not. all are supportive.

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 22:59

some are attracted to trans woman and some are not.

Translation - some are not lesbians

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Bespin · 06/08/2019 23:00

Trohmaniac

would you like to tell them that?

Datun · 06/08/2019 23:00

no I have a lot of actual lesbian friends you know the proper kind. some are attracted to trans woman and some are not.

Contradiction in terms.

'The proper kind' 😆

Bespin · 06/08/2019 23:01

have you ever in real life told some there not a lesbian because they include trans woman. I mean stood and told someone to there face they are not actually a lesbian.?

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Datun · 06/08/2019 23:02

Oh yes, that well-known lesbian characteristic. Intimidating women.

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 23:02

*Trohmaniac

would you like to tell them that?*

How on earth would that even work? Yeah, hang on, we'll have a meet up at Nandos.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 23:02

'The proper kind'

sorry I was using mumsnet speak.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 23:02

Well yeah I could for sure

RedDogsBeg · 06/08/2019 23:03

I'm not being obtuse and I will answer you more fully tomorrow as I am off to bed shortly.

One point I will make before I go is that if you want Equality Laws to change to include transwomen under the definition of lesbian because that is how they now identify, I trust you feel the same should apply to transmen who now identify as gay.

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 23:03

have you ever in real life told some there not a lesbian because they include trans woman. I mean stood and told someone to there face they are not actually a lesbian.?

No. And here's why. I've never had a lesbian tell me they're attracted to men. Every lesbian I've ever met has been sexually attracted to biological women exclusively.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 23:03

How on earth would that even work? Yeah, hang on, we'll have a meet up at Nandos.

brill which one can probably do Manchester or Leeds. are you paying at all?

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 23:05

Nah, I think you should all travel down to me in the South-West. And as a single parent of three, I don't think I can afford to pay for anyone else.

zebrasdontwearbras · 06/08/2019 23:06

Only females can be lesbians. Obviously that upsets some males, so all the female homosexuals have to be yelled at, at Pride, until they submit, and accept that males can be lesbians too.

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 23:06

Why do you care so much that the equality act doesn’t cater to transwoman or trans woman who identify as lesbians? Do you want them to face discrimination and get no legal protection?

UK law recognises "transsexuals" and confers upon them limited rights in the Equality Act 2010, since the GRA 2004 defines the existence of transsexuals while acknowledging that such definition means that no person can ever change their natural sex.

The UK GRA 2004 came into existence primarily to circumvent same-sex marriage, which did not become UK law until 2015.

UK law is clear .. no-one can change their natural sex.

What the GRA 2004 does is permit men who claim to be women [or vice versa] to marry another man [or woman], to claim their state pension at the age that females or males could claim their pension [before UK law equalised state pension ages] and to claim certain state benefits [before Universal Credit came into operation].

In 2019, the GRA 2004 is effectively redundant.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 23:07

It’s cool troh bespin just loves having a laugh on mumsnet

Bespin · 06/08/2019 23:09

littlbrowndog

seriously why would you spend an evening on here if you didn't enjoy it.

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