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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Expelled from Girlguiding for putting safeguarding first

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KatieAlcock · 04/08/2019 07:04

Many of you will remember that Helen Watts and another Guider were expelled from Girlguiding last year. This was me - in Sept 2018 I had my membership of Guiding withdrawn for social media breaches (one FB post in a small private group) and refusing to follow Girlguiding policies on transgender members (saying I'd put safeguarding first, ahead of any policies).
I'm a longstanding Guider and Mumsnetter (naice ham, cancel the cheque, show us the diagram) but I'm anonymous for obvious reasons, generally. I'm coming out now to tell you this story.

I appealed and the former Chief Guide who held the appeal concluded that I had not breached social media guidelines (I should jolly well hope not given that 9 people saw my post!) but that I was still refusing to follow GG policy (I gave the same statement - safeguarding comes first).

My story is in the Mail on Sunday today (if this link doesn't work I'll put a clicky link in the next post).

Mail on Sunday link

I am taking GG to court on the grounds that they have discriminated against me because of my gender critical beliefs by investigating my actions when other Guiders who complain about things are not investigated.
I am asking them for a small amount in damages because though I have not lost any income, I have lost reputation and the investigation was stressful, as you can understand.
And I've asked to be reinstated, and for a full apology and statement that I did nothing wrong.

PS... I spent an hour with their professional photographer telling me "don't smile" and they go with the photo from camp with a big grin on my face, taken by my Guide??!

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WhatAWonderfulDay · 28/06/2020 01:26

BUMP... only 1 day left to dig.

Please do google for Katie's link and get your spades out.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 28/06/2020 01:48

Whatawonderfulday

Bump

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2020 02:08

Bump - Katie needs your support

Sushiroller · 28/06/2020 02:17

Thank you for doing this.Flowers

Coyoacan · 28/06/2020 02:57

I hope more people see this

EdgeOfACoin · 28/06/2020 07:27

I've donated. She's a long way off her target, though, and there's only one day left.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 28/06/2020 07:41

Ive just seen it on Helens twitter and donated. If you had told me 15 yrs ago I would be donating to someone taking legal action against gguk I would never have believed you. Ive been active for more than 30 yrs. Am no longer in the uk though.

gardenbird48 · 28/06/2020 08:50

Donated! Such a crazy situation- I wish you all the best - can the date be extended to make the most of the new publicity generated by Allison Bailey I wonder?

teawamutu · 28/06/2020 09:56

Just dug again.

wellbehavedwomen · 28/06/2020 10:18

I think it's a rolling 30 day target for these funders - but yes, she absolutely does need a lot more help, irrespective. Legal action is painfully expensive.

WhatAWonderfulDay · 28/06/2020 10:24

Looks like it is rolling - both Maya and Katie have another 30 days to go.
As does Allison but they've very helpfully stopped taking now as she reached her stretch.

Does that tell them nothing? No pause for thought? Maybe , just maybe what we're saying has some merit???

VickyEadieofThigh · 28/06/2020 10:40

Have donated.

Now, did someone mention a Maya crowdfunder?

WhatAWonderfulDay · 28/06/2020 11:10

Maya? Who's Maya?
Crowdfunder? What's that?

whiteroseredrose · 28/06/2020 13:40

Can someone link for me??

carltongirl · 28/06/2020 14:04

Easily found with keywords crowdjustice and girlguiding.. what a woman of integrity you are. Good luck.

PurpleHoodie · 28/06/2020 15:25

Did they reinstate Allison's fundraiser?

SerenityNowwwww · 28/06/2020 15:30

Yes and it’s storming away.

PurpleHoodie · 28/06/2020 15:33

Just had a peek.

£60 000+ Grin Flowers

And they've stopped accepting donations as she has reached her target.

Who else can we re direct £££ to?

whiteroseredrose · 28/06/2020 15:50

Found it, thank you.

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