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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Michael Biggs paper on the Tavistock

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RedToothBrush · 30/07/2019 08:45

Seems to have been published yesterday.

Link to pdf in the following tweet.

This paper when published will document an appalling scandal the NHS is inflicting on children.

Andrew Lewis @ lecandardnoir
Hidden trials. Suppressed results. Misleading parents and children entering trials. Ideologically driven treatments. Cover ups. You name it. #alltrials
t.co/34pe8JOmvG

If this is even half accurate Carmichael should be struck off and jailed.

Worth reading.

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RedToothBrush · 30/07/2019 08:52

As of 2017, it sounds like 800 children experimented on.

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MrsSnippyPants · 30/07/2019 09:03

If this isn’t enough to get these experiments stopped then I give up.

RedToothBrush · 30/07/2019 09:07

Just wait until the NHS gets the litigation bill for this.

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LangCleg · 30/07/2019 09:11

The third problem is rarely admitted. Blocking puberty impedes the development of sexual functioning; some children given GnRHa never develop the capacity for orgasm (Jontry 2018). There is a strong taboo against mentioning this. The word ‘orgasm’ did not appear in the proposal for the 2011 experiment, and never appears on the GIDS website. When the endocrinologist at GIDS, Gary Butler, was asked about the effect of GnRHa on the ability to orgasm, he refused to answer

Finally, someone not too prudish or afraid to say it.

It's not just imposing sterility on children who cannot consent: it's also imposing possible lifelong loss of sexual function and pleasure. Why is this not a scandal already?

RedToothBrush · 30/07/2019 09:19

Because there are too many doctors and clinicians who are too invested in it, because there are too many activists who are too invested in it and because there are too many politicians too invested in it.

These people have to admit they were complicit in this or failed in their duty to scrutinise this.

It's easier to plough on until forced to face up to it.

It's like a runaway train.

The ideology of the adult trans community who has supported this and has promoted no debate then becomes under scrutiny too.

And again its all those who have staked their careers and liberal identity credentials on this who have to admit their complicity.

They don't want to believe its a scandal because its locked in with their own personal self interest.

The kids are just collateral damage. No one promoting this shit really cares about them.

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LangCleg · 30/07/2019 09:23

The kids are just collateral damage. No one promoting this shit really cares about them

Yep. They're badges for the adults. It's horrendous.

SarahTancredi · 30/07/2019 09:24

There is something so very odd about children somehow being deemed old enough or capable enligh to make these decisions but arent old enough or capable enough to be told about how their sex lives will be impacted when they get older.

How can they do that to these poor children.

How can they do any of it to these poor children.

None of this is for the childs benefit.

Rubidium · 30/07/2019 09:25

I liked this comment in the foonotes:
"Credit is due also to three woke students taking the Sociology MSc who exhorted me to educate myself on the subject of transgendered children."

I guess that backfired, then.

LangCleg · 30/07/2019 09:31

I mean, goddess knows I don't want to be talking about the future orgasms of children. It feels vile and prurient. But how can I not if pressure from adult activists and reckless doctors are taking them away?

MrsJamin · 30/07/2019 09:33

It is illegal for people under the age of 18 to get a tattoo. But behind their parents' backs they can ask for hormone blockers that will leave them to a host of potential problems including sexual dysfunction, bone density depletion, lack of growth, etc etc. It's just SHOCKING how politicians and medical professionals have enabled this just to look 'woke' and 'young thinking'. The sooner this U turn happens, the better.

FormerMediocreMale · 30/07/2019 09:37

Its heartbreaking.

I really hope when this is blown wide open heads roll, lots of them. In the last century evil experimented on people and no lessons were learnt, as these people and their accomplices and cheerleaders are now experimenting on children. Angry

IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW

Joisanofthedales · 30/07/2019 09:38

Having read this paper I am gobsmacked that the Tavistock is still allowed to treat children. It also shows Mermaids in a very poor light (confirms their role in promoting puberty blockers). The use of so called puberty blockers has to stop and stop now. Why aren't politicians up in arms about this? Why isn't this plastered on billboards and front pages? Dear God what a terrible society we live in where this is encouraged and praised.
I wish I was an ostrich so I could pretend this isn't happening but I can't.

Angryresister · 30/07/2019 09:40

Have any parents or young people reacted publicly so far? What help is being given to them I wonder?

Mrskeats · 30/07/2019 09:43

I have said before on many threads that my stepdaughter of 16 years and 4 months has been on puberty blockers and is now on testosterone. So that’s no fertility and no sexual function now. It’s a scandal of epic proportions.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/07/2019 09:46

Finally. Fantastic and damming report.

I also think about all those academics who denounced the people working on these things - esp Michelle Moore and Heather Brunskell Evans.

SarahTancredi · 30/07/2019 09:46

I mean, goddess knows I don't want to be talking about the future orgasms of children. It feels vile and prurient. But how can I not if pressure from adult activists and reckless doctors are taking them away?

It's like anything isnt it? If u cant talk about it then should you be doing it?

If parents or clinics cant discuss any and all side effects and consequences they they have no business dealing with the children.

I think.these children have a right to know. I'm.sure therenare age appropriate ways to discuss it with them.

What is sick, is not telling them and them finding out that there were treated as if a penis is nothing more than a lump.of flesh and a vagina is nothing more than a hole to stick a dick in.

Both are so.much more than that.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/07/2019 09:47

I also feel sick. All those children and families misled and harmed.

RedToothBrush · 30/07/2019 09:48

What are the effects of sexual dysfunction on adults?

Well Google comes up with this pretty quickly.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28961442/
Sexual dysfunction is associated with suicidal ideation in female service members and veterans.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25818906/
Depression and anxiety in men with sexual dysfunction: a retrospective study.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1745506518762664
Women’s sexual dysfunction associated with psychiatric disorders and their treatment

(the little diagrams about sexual arousal and mental health being a cycle in this one are good)

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/erectile-dysfunction-linked-to-risk-of-early-death-impotence-a6791746.html
ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION 'LINKED TO RISK OF EARLY DEATH'
Researchers say that those who experience erectile dysfunction should undergo health tests

Those are just the top results...

... There are a lot lot more.

Men who suffer from erectile dysfunction (ED) are 70 per cent more likely to die early, a new study has found.

US scientists believe that the disorder may be linked to poor cardiovascular health, and suggested that men with ED should be screened for health issues that could cut their lives short.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/07/2019 09:49

MrsKeats Thanks

Angryresister · 30/07/2019 09:54

Mrskeats Has anyone from these services reached out to your stepdaughter or your/ her family? IF not , why not? IS your stepdaughter now fully aware of the consequences of her treatment?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 30/07/2019 09:58

If this isn’t enough to get these experiments stopped then I give up.

Too many powerful people are invested for it to stop. 99% of the country could be against it but it'll still continue.

It's Eugenics, it'll stop the homosexuals, the autistics and the non-comformers from reproducing, eventually leaving a generation of clean human.

WrathofSWhittIeKlop · 30/07/2019 10:03

Thanks Red
And thanks to Michael Biggs, author of the paper.

This is the article we all have been waiting for
All the main players are there

I will use it for reference.

Children being experimented on with Tryptorhelin (puberty blocker) which were unlicenced and untested on children.
Inaccurate reporting of tabulated data in the study.

I can't string a sentence here I am so angry.

Sickening abuse, utterly sickening.

Lawyers, sharpen your pencils.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 30/07/2019 10:07

Thanks for posting this RTB

It’s astonishing

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/07/2019 10:13

*By 2008, GIRES was more strident in criticizing British clinicians. One of its founders, Terry Reed, denounced them as “transphobic”:

They are hoping that during puberty the natural hormones themselves will act on the brain to ‘cure’ these trans teenagers. What we do know is what happens if you don’t offer hormone blockers. You are stuck with unwanted secondary sex characteristics in the long term and in the short term these teenagers end up suicidal. (Guardian, 14
August 2008)

Reed was clearly drawing on the experience of her own child, who transitioned two decades before. *

So basically more than one of the key drivers behind much of all this have been projecting and self affirming their own actions.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/07/2019 10:14

Well known side effects of the drug:

bnf.nice.org.uk/drug/triptorelin.html

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