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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Banned from women-only FB group

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maet · 14/07/2019 00:47

A trans woman edited by MNHQ because OP is using second language posted in a women's only FB group wanting free emotional labour and "validation" from untrained women to help them with getting over their abusive ex boyfriend.

I stated it wasn't appropriate to ask untrained women to take on their emotional labour, especially considering what had happened to them was so traumatic (according to them they ended up in hospital), and especially not for free and suggested they seek professional help instead.

Cue trans woman and women stating I was being transphobic, and "wouldn't understand the fear a marginalised group would go through."

I was told I hadn't been through a traumatic experience before so couldn't possibly understand what the OP was going through.

I've been banned from a group specifically designed for women. Nowhere in the post did I mention anything about the OP being trans.

I am so sick of this shit. The world has gone mad.

OP posts:
RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:27

Those two statements read the same to me

How? One said we're not doing your emotional labour for free, the other had absolutely no mention of this whatsoever and was a perfectly reasonable sounding reply.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/07/2019 00:27

There's nothing wrong at all with the 2nd statement so that makes absolutely no sense as to why the op was banned for transphobia.
Women get banned from twitter for stating biological facts.
A male sex offender was put into a womens prison.
A person is bringing women to court for not waxing their testicles.
Lesbians are being told to get over their genital preferences and learn how to like girl d**k.
None of this makes any sense. Yet here we are.
So I can believe that maet was banned for suggesting the poster seek professional help and that it was'nt the right place to post.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:28

I meant how are they disrupting and causing fights just by being in there in the first place? They're allowed to be there.

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:30

No, no Roses you can't change what you meant to say after. Only first statements will be accepted.

DecomposingComposers · 15/07/2019 00:30

Those two statements read the same to me

You are kidding me right? You do realise that we can all read? How do they in anyway read the same?

Of course you don't really think they're the same because you then say

The post to the other forum user is just her thoughts expressed kindly and politely. Her OP is obviously posted from exasperation about what happened.

Why is the 2nd statement expressed kindly and politely if you think they both read the same?

And if you don't think the op actually said the 1st statement, why did she say I stated? Are you saying that she lied in her op then? That she didn't state what she said she stated?

And where did the bit about emotional labour disappear to in the 2nd statement? Was that just made up for dramatic effect?

DecomposingComposers · 15/07/2019 00:33

Because she said it was and we believe her.

She said the first one too. So you don't believe what she put in her op then?

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:33

No, no Roses you can't change what you meant to say after. Only first statements will be accepted

I was just clarifying what I meant, I haven't changed my comment - just clarified it.
I'd still say the exact same comment.

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:34

I haven't changed my comment

Yes you have, you just did. It's right there for all to see

Datun · 15/07/2019 00:35

No worries Barelove

Zzzz too 😊

DecomposingComposers · 15/07/2019 00:36

This is just bonkers.

I cannot believe that you are all tying yourself up in knots, desperately trying to justify the ops complete about turn.

OccasionalKite · 15/07/2019 00:37

And OP is now being brigaded for her heresy.

The OP's original community got disrupted by a community disruptor.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:39

OK, for clarification -
this bit
I'm talking about MTF trans coming into women's communities and dividing them. It's happening all the time at the moment. Including to the OP's women's tech forum. It was in support of her experience

So I said women are allowed to be there.
That's their rules.

Then when somebody said no-one has said otherwise, I added how are they disrupting and causing fights just by being in there in the first place?
They're allowed to be there Which is why I said what I did.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:41

OccasionalKite Are U OK? Knock once for yes, twice for no lol

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:42

So I said women are allowed to be there.

That's not what you said though Confused

OccasionalKite · 15/07/2019 00:42

The OP's community got disrupted by a community disruptor.

DecomposingComposers · 15/07/2019 00:42

RosesAndRaindrops

It's clear what you meant. They're just picking a fight for no reason.

I have to go to bed now. Goodnight all.

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:44

It's clear what you meant.

But it's not. Well not to me. Otherwise I wouldn't ask ConfusedConfused

Datun · 15/07/2019 00:44

The OP's original community got disrupted by a community disruptor.

Indeed. And it's a perfect description OccasionalKite. I see a lot of it on fb.

No doubt we will see further examples as it becomes more prevalent.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:45

RosesAndRaindrops

It's clear what you meant

Thank feck Grin

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:46

Are you all blindly missing the fact it went so completely bonkers after oi oi cucumelons? Grin

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:47

It's clear what you meant.

But it's not. Well not to me. Otherwise I wouldn't ask 

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:48

oi oi cucumelons

Roses what.....!??¿ are you ok? Knock twice.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:51

Roses what.....!??¿ are you ok? Knock twice

Yes, I'm fine thanks lol - I was referring to in the middle of the thread when rallying cries of oi oi was sent out and all the talk about cucumelons (was it a cucumelon? Something like that lol) and vegetables.
Maybe you missed it, it was......umm..... really something lol.

GirlDownUnder · 15/07/2019 00:53

Oh, that sounds like fun lol

It doesn't really have anything to do with my question to you though, so I'm still confused. I'm sure I've read all your posts too.

RosesAndRaindrops · 15/07/2019 00:55

It doesn't really have anything to do with my question to you though

It wasn't really to you, it was more in response to Occasional and Datun Smile

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