Laurel Hubbard wins gold

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Gearing up for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics -

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/114222068/laurel-hubbard-wins-gold-at-pacific-games-after-losing-name-surpression-battle

So are all those East German female athletes who won medals in the 80s - which were then disqualified because of steroid doping - going to have their medals returned to them?

Agreed but so fucked off with the women losing places in the mean time, and if we can reverse this, and this is seen as cheating, will the medals be stripped, and the records removed?

I don’t think they will because they are playing within the rules as they currently stand, or at least how they are currently being interpreted.

This isn’t the same as someone having a title taken away because they were later found to be taking testosterone; this is someone everyone knows right now takes testosterone.

This is what’s so infuriating.

Any records taken now could stand forever, even if the sporting world comes to its senses and bans transwomen from competing in future events.

@Popchyk the photo you linked to is illuminating in that it shows the "winning" athlete clearly still has important male anatomy

Oh it gets worse. This is the woman the rich white man displaced:

"SPORT: "I was rescued by the Samoa Victim Support Group and now I know there is hope." says Samoa Gold Medallist, SUGA Feagaiga Stowers, 17 victim of Domestic Violence turned Champion t.co/Ooo9US05YK t.co/4Pq9bUwgjG "

twitter.com/SUGA_Magazine/status/983615555310518272?s=19

I wonder whether the person selecting these illuminating photos is quietly GC.

Interesting article here about how Hubbard suppressed the careless driving story.

Any negative attention on social media would have impacted on Hubbard's training for the Olympics apparently.

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/114163563/weightlifter-laurel-hubbards-dogged-fight-to-keep-her-name-out-of-the-media

"In a rare move, the judge also suppressed Hubbard's name until September 30, so Hubbard could train for qualifying events for the Olympics without the distress caused by social media comments responding to publicity about the charge".

"After a hearing on July 1, Justice Gerald Nation overturned each of the suppression orders".

He said Judge Farnan was mistaken in finding Hubbard had shown a real risk of extreme hardship.

He saw no evidence of financial hardship and Hubbard, then aged 40, was not vulnerable in the way younger people could be.

"She had demonstrated considerable courage and resilience in transitioning and in deciding to compete at an international level as a woman ... she must have known it could attract considerable controversy and must have felt that she would be able to cope with that controversy."

Laurel Hubbard is not, technically, a cheat.

Premably in the same way that Boris Johnson is a feminist?

She had demonstrated considerable courage and resilience in transitioning and in deciding to compete at an international level as a woman ...

So brave, so stunning, so inspirational....

I think the second judge makes a reasonable point.

If you are so brave and demonstrate such courage and resilience, then why do you need the law to make an exception for you and hide your identity? For a crime that you perpetrated, nobody else.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

why isn't Laurel embarrassed to stand up there, knowing full well that it's an unfair win??

SunsetBeech I was coming here to post that.

This is the second time in the space of a day that this bullshit has reduced me to sobbing. Finding out the backstory of the woman JY is targeting was the first.

The link in the tweet isn't working for me - here's an archive link of Feagaiga's story for anyone else who is experiencing the same.

<a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20180414084631/www.sugamagazineonline.com/samoas-golden-girl-a-samoa-victim-support-group-survivor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180414084631/www.sugamagazineonline.com/samoas-golden-girl-a-samoa-victim-support-group-survivor/

why isn't Laurel embarrassed to stand up there, knowing full well that it's an unfair win??

Lack of self awareness seems to be particular trait. Winning at any cost is what seemingly matters, even if the world and his wife thinks you're a cheat. It speaks volumes about them as a person. I wouldn't give Hubbard or McKinnon the time of day.

Laurel Hubbard is the biggest embarrassment and sadly not the only 'cheat'

twitter.com/GenderfreeCamp/status/1150015465407823872

F*ck off mediocre men in women's sport.

Does anyone know the 3 actual women that should have been on the podium instead of this cheat?

Whoever you are congratulations ladies you are amazing, your dignity in facing this cheat is phenomenal. Know you are awesome and we see this for what it is.

Is it my imagination, or are the woke brigade cowering away from this one? Can't find anyone cheering laurel on.

Eventually this whole sorry period in women's sport will be looked back on with deep shame and contempt for those that allowed it to happen. Right side of history, my arse.

Hubbard has no shame. The look on the woman’s faces. Tells their story

Shame on New Zealand as well 😢😢

I saw a FB news story on this and there were comments underneath from people who knew the silver medalist/real winner. They were really sad "my poor niece, my heart breaks for you," kind of thing.

It really struck me then that this is different to losing to a woman fairly, where silver would still earn you kudos and congratulations. You would still celebrate silver normally. There is a huge difference between fair/unfair competition and how it feels. It isn't just a couple of women being a position lower or the occasional scholarship (which obvs matters too), but it takes all the joy out of it for the competitors and their supporters.

This is sadly not surprising. New Zealand is an extremely misogynistic coupled with extremely woke, extreme ends, country, so this is about what I’d expect.

Currently there is a domestic abuser in the men’s rugby team, world champs, and a rapist ( admitted she said no more than once but not convicted ) in the men’s cricket team.

NZ sports institutions are rife with people who hate women.

Yes splash. It really does. Gutting to do all that training and invest your live in it then a Hubbard comes along with all the unfair advantages and takes it away from you and there is nothing you can do

Can't find anyone cheering laurel on

In NZ media generally Laurel has been defended and applauded.... by the same sports writers who write very ‘moving’ articles saying we should embrace and look after sportsmen who’ve hurt women.

I see a penis in lycra and male pattern baldness.

Madness

Laurel Hubbard is not, technically, a cheat.

Laurel has played by the rules of the day and won. Therefore there will not be any changes to the medal. If rules change in the future, any record that Laurel makes will still stand and women will have to beat it.

^ that just sucks monkey balls!

Woke males must be so happy white males are taking medals away from young women of colour. This is so progressive.