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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Peak Transing

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Apollo440 · 12/07/2019 15:05

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

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RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:05

Because you are the one that referred to us as proof.
I know I did, as people wanted proof so I gave it (still got to find the actual thread but you all clearly remember it so it did exist)

Don’t turn it around on me. I don’t fall for those DARVO tactics
I'm not turning anything round on you Confused I was asked for proof and gave it like asked. And I truthfully don't know why people want me to resurrect it anyway, it really wasn't a pleasant thread and showed up a lot of things that happens on here.

FeckMum · 13/07/2019 20:05

how bout we just call it #peakmen

PurpleCrowbar · 13/07/2019 20:06

You might be correct, Roses, but that's definitely not my recollection.

I think most posters on this board actively welcome different opinions - it makes for a much more interesting thread. That's why it's so annoying when people just refuse to engage with the tricky stuff or proudly proclaim that they 'don't give a shit', & think these are valuable contributions.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:07

We like sunlight

So do I.

Ereshkigal · 13/07/2019 20:08

It's really quite instructive to many people. We have nothing to hide.

FeministCat · 13/07/2019 20:11

So do I.

Well then why even be concerned about resurrecting in the first place if you feel it is in your favour?

The only thing consistent in your posts in this thread is your inconsistency (and avoidance of answering Datun’s question about the 76 children)

sackrifice · 13/07/2019 20:12

I think most posters on this board actively welcome different opinions - it makes for a much more interesting thread. That's why it's so annoying when people just refuse to engage with the tricky stuff or proudly proclaim that they 'don't give a shit', & think these are valuable contributions.

I've asked many many times for these people with different opinions but basically it still boils down to 'don't be mean, it turns people off'.

They never ever provide anything else.

littlbrowndog · 13/07/2019 20:13

Jeez Ros just take a break. Be with the ppl you love. And love you

I really don’t think you have achieved anything for being here for 13 hours

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 20:13

Roses ... perhaps make sure you have the objective evidence available to share before you make any assertion?

This is usual practice for anyone who wants to be perceived as credible.

Collect your objective evidence, make your assertion and link to that objective evidence immediately before making any post ?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:14

Well then why even be concerned about resurrecting in the first place if you feel it is in your favour?

I'm not concerned, I'd love to be able to find it (it was a two parter thread, there was two of them, why part 2 got started is anyone's guess, even one poster said something like "Noooo! Why prolong it?" lol
I was just wondering why the heck people want me to resurrect it that's all.

Ereshkigal · 13/07/2019 20:14

Bring it on.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 13/07/2019 20:15

I'm confused now. I thought Roses was looking for evidence of something but only had PMs so wasn't prepared to show those and some of us tightly said they wouldn't be evidence anyway, merely anecdotal experiences. I can't remember what the something was now with all the other nonsense but it wasn't forthcoming anyway. One might naturally presume because it doesn't exist. Something to do with gender dysphoria and choices perhaps?

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 20:20

If Roses cannot substantiate any assertion with related objective evidence, Roses has zero credibility. It's that simple.

[Reminder: anecdotes received via PMs do not constitute objective evidence.]

So, thus far, Roses has zero credibility in any respect.

PurpleCrowbar · 13/07/2019 20:20

I had a quick look but can't find the thread Roses is talking about, & I've gone back 6 pages in FWR. Maybe it was in AIBU or something? Good luck anyone finding it in there...

Anyway - those 6 pages wet back to the start of July. 6 pages in less than a fortnight, largely talking about precisely this issue (I'd say at least half the posts).

Which does rather argue against the whole wide eyed 'oh goodness all the nice feminists have been turned off & gone elsewhere, you're putting them off' argument.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:22

Found it.
So i can back up what I said.

Thread 1
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3612417-Use-of-trans-identified-male-as-opposed-to-transwoman

Thread 2
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3614194-Use-of-trans-identified-male-as-opposed-to-transwoman-No2

Although I'm not even sure why I'm bothering, as anyone disagreeing is saying meeeen sealioning Confused

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 20:23

Reminder: Roses has zero credibility since Roses has zero credible evidence to show that substantiate any assertion Roses makes.

FeministCat · 13/07/2019 20:24

Are you going to show us the specific posts or you just want us all to each read 2000 posts (both threads closed as they reached 1,000) to figure out what your evidence is?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:26

This one?

Yes, that's the one, cross posted with mine

Reminder: Roses has zero credibility since Roses has zero credible evidence to show that substantiate any assertion Roses makes
I've got no credibility even though I'm finding proof, have posted the same link as the other poster, and can back up my claims?
Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion

sackrifice · 13/07/2019 20:28

I've got no credibility even though I'm finding proof, have posted the same link as the other poster, and can back up my claims?

You want posters to read 2000 posts and try and work out what iis ta is proving the point you are trying to make?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:28

Are you going to show us the specific posts or you just want us all to each read 2000 posts (both threads closed as they reached 1,000) to figure out what your evidence is?
Christ, I'm supposed to scroll through the entire two threads now?
Search SuePerbly posts on there, that's one for starters.

MIdgebabe · 13/07/2019 20:28

Evidence for what?

sackrifice · 13/07/2019 20:30

Evidence for what?

Apparently we are so mean it is turning people away. That's why it was so easy to find the threads and posts, as virtually nobody posts in here any more, as they are so turned off by the meanies...

oh hang on...

FeministCat · 13/07/2019 20:30

Since you claim to love sunlight, Roses, I wanted to show you this display of what treating transwomen as women means for women’s sports. I am concerned you are so concerned about policing language here you may not have chance to cheer on this stunning and brave transwomen:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3636671-Laurel-Hubbard-wins-gold

Laurel Hubbard wins gold97
Today 08:22 TundraDweller

Gearing up for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics -

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/114222068/laurel-hubbard-wins-gold-at-pacific-games-after-losing-name-surpression-battle

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 20:31

Evidence for what?
I've already said, people have repeatedly asked me to provide evidence that people have been turned away.
I am doing, but it's still evidence for what Confused

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