Use of trans identified male as opposed to transwoman No2.

[happydappy2]

MNHQ There has been much written recently about how the controlling of the words we use, is very misleading. Many women reject the word transwoman as it can be misunderstood. In light of this, would you reconsider yr guidelines that Trans Identified Male can not be used? It would seem a more factually accurate description of a human male who presents in a stereotypically female way. Thank you.

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Well

I admire your dedication to this at least happy



Weren’t Mumsnet going to have a little look at rethinking? Ive forgotten, the thread got that long

[littlbrowndog]

Lols rufus. Was like a torture 😉😉😎 just watching

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Oh it was littlbrown

But again for the cheap seats

Its a yay from me, as long as people follow the guidelines i think they should be allowed to say what they like

Ive always referred to transwomen and will continue to do so but I appreciate others may wish to use different terms

[WhoopDeFuckingDo]

Lovely. Since were carrying on, rowantrees, you went right off topic near the end of the last thread with a post about mobbing, a form of trolling.

important & insightful article by specialist coercive control organisation... Trolling and Online Abuse - Is there a difference? ....
Mobbing campaigns rely heavily on the reluctance of bystanders to intervene which only adds to the distress caused to the targeted individual.

How is that relevant to the thread exactly? You know it’s frowned upon to go off topic so I expect you had a point in mind.

[BeUpStanding]

Nooooooo! Why prolong the agony?!

[Yeahnahyeah]

How many fingers am I holding up Winston?

[Orchidoptic]

Where is R0wantrees on this thread? And you want to talk about off topic?

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

I thought it was considered bad form to bring over stuff from other threads

[littlbrowndog]

No more torture I give in I will eat slugs and weetabix

[Melroses]

To share.

[sackrifice]

Did you lot carry on that thread? Wow, stamina.

[Justhadathought]

Question in the light of the previous thread

Is it legitimate for people to use multiple usernames on Mumsnet? Some have suggested they do ( whether this is true or not, I'm uncertain) On other forums this is not allowed.

How does one go about looking at someone's posting history; is this possible?

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

just

Yes its allowed

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

°How does one go about looking at someone's posting history; is this possible?^

It is allowed, but not in one thread afaik. There is no way to check a posters history of names. If you have particular concerns you can report to MNHQ with details, and they can look from their end.

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

It is allowed, but not in one thread afaik

Oh yes, i should have said deffo not on the sane thread

That’s considered sock puppeting

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Same...not sane

That thread was NOT sane

[Erythronium]

I'd also like Mumsnet to allow all terms. Let them fall as they will. I may use the term "male woman" from now on. It seems to cover all the bases for being accurate whilst allowing MTF trans to be described as women like they want.

I was going to post this on the other thread, but it had already filled up before I was able to do it. A quote by Virginia Woolf from A Room of One's Own:

Women have served all these centuries as looking glasses possessing the magic and delicious power of reflecting the figure of man at twice its natural size.

I wonder if dear Virginia could have predicted that in the 21st century it would be women's job to serve as mirrors to reflect back men's "womanhood" to them. It's quite astonishing when you think about it. Calling women "cruel" when we refuse is also one of the most startling patriarchal reversals I've seen for a long time.

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

^I'd also like Mumsnet to allow all terms

Yep. Following the talk guidelines should be sufficient.

[Justhadathought]

It is allowed, but not in one thread afaik. There is no way to check a posters history of names. If you have particular concerns you can report to MNHQ with details, and they can look from their end

What I mean is: is it possible to look back through a particular user-name's posts? For example, could anyone look back through all of my posts?

[LangCleg]

Still yay.

That is all.

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

For example, could anyone look back through all of my posts

They could look back at all of your posts under a particular username, yes.

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

On the mobile site click the down arrow on the top right -> advanced search -> search by keyword -> posts by username

[S1naidSucks]

Yes, let all the previously banned terms be used, however the TRA hammer would come down on Mumsnet. So I can understand why they feel they need to keep them from attacking.

[Justhadathought]

Personally, I'm o.k for 'Cis' to be used, so long as I can also use my preferred terminology

At least it would mean that potentially hostile posters could easily be identified and ignored. I don't accept 'Cis' at all, but don't feel enraged by it; just irritated. I would always reject it, though, in dialogue with someone using it on me.

[Erythronium]

They need to fight for women.