Peak Transing

[Apollo440]

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

Oh dear.

Has Petrol fallen into the well of lonelyabyss again?!

Someone chuck her a rope.

You're literally posting almost next to posts stating those things. You can find a link if you simply press the refresh page button of your browser

You stayed that not agreeing with the same viewpoint was dark, and I couldn't believe that you thought that women not wanting other women to be raped was dark.

This was your point not mine.

So you do agree with the general view, that women being raped in jail by men is a bad thing?

So what did you mean when you said not agreeing with the same viewpoint was dark?
What viewpoint are you taking about?

Oh dear Has Petrol fallen into the well of lonelyabyss again?!

I'm not getting into pointless rubbish about how and why trans people are different to men and women

Trans people are still men and women...that's the point.

So what did you mean when you said not agreeing with the same viewpoint was dark? What viewpoint are you taking about?

It has literally just been clarified upthread, can you not see it or something?

You stayed that not agreeing with the same viewpoint was dark

No she didn't
You're word twisting.

No, I didn't. I said that accusing other women of wanting women to be raped is dark, amongst other things.

Maybe they will, as I said they'll make their own minds up when they see what's going on.

You mean when they see men in women's prisons, and lesbians being ostracised for not accepting lady dick? Or girls having their breast tissue removed, or boys being given hormones that make their penises shrivel...that sort of thing?

I've already told you, I'm not getting into pointless rubbish about how and why trans people are different to men and women. You already know

Yes. We do.

Yeah, I don't really get the comment about the well either. But at this stage, happy just to have been referred to as her rather than him!

It has literally just been clarified up thread, can you not see it or something?

Given your demand of us to link directly to relevant evidence, perhaps you could link directly to that post?

Or are double standards at play here?

Roses, as I said earlier, your entertainment value is without price!

hamster

And also

Hamster, lovey, do you think that "peak trans" as a phrase applies to you as a transperson or to the ideology of genderism?

Asking for a friend.

Petrol said: Oh sorry, am I some kind of lower class of female because I don't share precisely your viewpoints?...Sounds a bit of a dark point of view I must say

And I am wondering what is dark about not sharing a viewpoint such as women not wanting other women to be raped in jail.

No, not that sort of thing.
The sort of thing you and others do.
Word twist. Insult fling. Insinuate that people with differing opinions are abusers (not yet happened on this thread admittedly, but happens) and when called out on it cry DARVO.
I don't even know why I'm trying to explain, it's obvious you don't want to understand.

Petrol and Roses
Ffs. Go have tea or gin or both. You're running round and round in circles. You're not convincing anyone. There really does reach a point where you just seem to be upsetting yourselves for no reason.

perhaps you could link directly to that post?

We just did.
What's the point in doing it all over again when you can't see what's in front of your face?

I'm not about to start administrating feminism to other people,

As if you could.

I don't even know why I'm trying to explain, it's obvious you don't want to understand.

So, Roses, explain it to us all. We are listening.

Ffs. Go have tea or gin or both. You're running round and round in circles
Yes, because it's always circular. I agree with you there.

So, Roses, explain it to us all. We are listening.

I literally just have.

No she didn't...You're word twisting.

Except for the direct quote I just quoted where petrol said exactly that.

I feel Bickerin's excellent post bears some excerpts repeating since it seems to have sparked a renewed effort along the strawperson lines.

The United Nations Bangkok Proticils in the treatment of prisoners states that the gold standard in care for female prisoners is to not even have male guards. Gold standard also is to ensure that female and male prisoners are to be housed in completely separate buildings.

The UN clearly states that housing male and female prisoners together is a violation of female human rights.

The willful blindness to the extent and harms of male violence against women and girls, including “lesser” acts of harassment, exposure, and voyeurism, some of which are only precursors to greater violence for some males, is misogyny.

The insistence of privileging subjectivity over material reality constitutes reactionary politics and is antithetical to left-wing socialism.

Has anyone anything actually substantive to say that rebuts these points?

So, Roses, explain it to us all. We are listening.I literally just have.

No, you have not explained in any way whatsoever.

Try again.