Peak Transing

[Apollo440]

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

You just inferred that one of the things we disagree on is whether or not women should be raped in prison. Seriously?

I question if transpeople are really significantly different to men and women as petrol claimed above. BECAUse people are just so varied that finding any group with significant differences is rare. Any suggestions as to how they are different ? Google has failed to find anything so far.

Oh sorry, am I some kind of lower class of female because I don't share precisely your viewpoints?...Sounds a bit of a dark point of view I must say
This bit, sack?

And I am wondering what is dark about not sharing a viewpoint such as women not wanting other women to be raped in jail
Where did petrol say she wants other women to be raped in jail
of course she doesn't (I assume so, anyway!)
You're the one that tacked that onto the end of what she said, which was Oh sorry, am I some kind of lower class of female because I don't share precisely your viewpoints
It is a kind of dark point of view to insult and dismiss other women's experiences or opinions if they don't fit exactly to everything you say.

You just inferred that one of the things we disagree on is whether or not women should be raped in prison. Seriously?

Well, exactly. Why don't you agree that this is a bad thing? And why do you think that we are dark when we disagree with you?

You are the one that called the disagreement dark.

What have I claimed now?

You just inferred that one of the things we disagree on is whether or not women should be raped in prison. Seriously?

Exactly, I mean WTF

Jacky I think the word literally is used by younger people like wicked used to be...meaning the opposite.

DD tends to use it apologetically/ironically as an admission that they messed up. Perhaps Rosen is the same?

I've had another 64 PMs since I last posted. Is that a record?

Well, exactly. Why don't you agree that this is a bad thing?

Course it's a bad thing, it's an awful thing.
Nobody's said any different, you're blindly missing what people are saying.
I don't know why you do it. People can SEE what happens.
It's all on the thread in black and white

No one, literally no one on Mumsnet, I'm going to say ever, has ever said that women should be raped in prison.

You are constantly going on about the person who said "no" to you.

You noticed!

Welcome to lurkers.

It is characteristic of the trans ideology, that it's the advocates for it who will inform you the most.

Another tactic is to string a thread out to 1000 posts without addressing a single pertinent point.

But I'm sure you've gathered that by now!

You just inferred that one of the things we disagree on is whether or not women should be raped in prison. Seriously?

Petrol, have you stated, without any reservation whatsoever, that no naturally sexed male prisoner should ever be anywhere near any prison for those who are naturally sexed female? That there should never be any circumstance where anyone born naturally sexed as male should be incarcerated in the same space as those naturally sexed female?

But women have been accused of wanting other women to be raped, for 'feminism', and that is pretty bloody dark.

Nobody's said any different, you're blindly missing what people are saying

Perhaps before calling us dark, petrol needs to think through what they are saying. How fucking dare petrol say that we are dark for wanting women to be protected.

Accusations of being a men's rights activist is exactly the issue people have with debating.

How are you not? Maybe not an activist, but a supporter. This is a very male centred agenda.

Lang - ideology of genderism for sure. Applies to me insofar as I peak at least twice a week these days.

Another tactic is to string a thread out to 1000 posts without addressing a single pertinent point

It's like they're using the sea lion cartoon as an instructional manual

I think Roses at least was broadly with the consensus that TW need separate accommodation in jail, to stop the rapey ones (yes no doubt most of them are non-rapey & lovely, just like other men) from raping.

(We've established elsewhere that Petrol 'doesn't give a shit').

But there seems to be a misapprehension that such facilities exist, are widely used, & all those TW are already in them.

This is not the case.

If those TW are in the general female prison population, women are at a heightened risk of rape. Most of us seem to find this unacceptable.

No, I've said that violent sexual offenders should be segregated. I'm not going to agree that anyone with a penis is a rapist.

No one has said that they are. Stop gaslighting.

No we haven't established that. Stop making things up.

So we agree that rapists shouldn't be in the general population of a prison. So which part of that means I want women to be raped?

It is characteristic of the trans ideology, that it's the advocates for it who will inform you the most
I wouldn't know. All I said is do you have a source for that when you claimed thousands are doing this and you wouldn't, you wanted people to just agree with what you're saying.
Fine, fair enough.
Yes, the lurkers can make their own minds up as I said, these types of thread shows it all up for what it is on here.

Another tactic is to string a thread out to 1000 posts without addressing a single pertinent point

Indeed.

But women have been accused of wanting other women to be raped

Petrol, please provide evidence to substantiate your claim here. Thank you.