Peak Transing

[Apollo440]

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

Are you the arbiter of feminism now?

Do you have a different definition of the aim of feminism? Please explain.

I don't have a Twitter account. But please, let's hear your next bizarre theory to explain away the possibility that ordinary rational human being could simply just disagree with you.

and don't wish to learn about feminism, why are you here?

I for one DO* want to learn about feminism though, that's why I started coming on the FWR board in the first place instead of just Chat and AIBU.

The reason that we keep replying is that we know how many women are lurkers on this forum.
Yes, and that's the reason I keep posting too. For lurkers, and people on the fence.
As I said earlier, people make their own minds up where they are when they see what goes on.

What conspiracy theories?

That's what's really, really dark

Can you explain why you think women not wanting other women to be raped in jail, is dark please.

I'm not about to start administrating feminism to other people, but I certainly think a core tenet should be not calling other women idiots.

"The reason that we keep replying is that we know how many women are lurkers on this forum. Some of the questions that you are pretending to pose in good faith are questions that these lurkers genuinely need answered."

This. I was one of those lurkers which, after weeks of reading and thinking today found the courage to post on this thread.

This. I was one of those lurkers which, after weeks of reading and thinking today found the courage to post on this thread

Welcome aboard, NiceRadFem

I've certainly been accused of it on here. That's what's really, really dark. And the weird conspiracy theories. That's pretty dark as well. And just the general thinking that it's ok to call other people stupid etc because you're 'liberating' them.

In keeping with the standard to which others have been held here: please provide evidence to substantiate your claim.

Thank you.

Can you explain why you think women not wanting other women to be raped in jail, is dark please

Where the heck did petrol say that?
She said it's really really dark being accused of wanting women to be raped.

The conspiracy theories that I'm a man, I'm computer generated, I'm a trans rights activist from Twitter... Should I go on?

You're literally posting almost next to posts stating those things. You can find a link if you simply press the refresh page button of your browser.

And just the general thinking that it's ok to call other people stupid etc because you're 'liberating' them

In keeping with the standard to which others have been held here: please provide evidence to substantiate your claim

There you go, only the last page away.
So keep going: you are the GC movement's useful idiots

Idiots, stupid, potato, patata

Yes, that's precisely it. Being accused of wanting other women to be raped is one of the darkest things I've heard in my life. Does it get much worse than that?

As I said earlier, people make their own minds up where they are when they see what goes on.

Dear Roses ... keep going please .. we need no more than you for women to achieve their individual peak trans moment.

Being accused of wanting other women to be raped is one of the darkest things I've heard in my life. Does it get much worse than that?

Please provide evidence to substantiate your claim here.

Thank you.

I'm not sure you understand the definition of conspiracy theory. This does not surprise me as you've failed to define anything so far. But I'll give you another chance to define the following:

Woman

Man

Transwoman

I believe that to say "you are the GC movement's useful idiots" is not the same of calling a person an idiot - the point is about the theoretical standing of asking questions again and again, and against faux naivety and obstructionism, not about you personally.

AH well I don’t think you should call anyone’s an idiot, but you can call anyone acting idiotic no matter what’s their sex even if you are feminist. We ain’t stupid or soft or nice.

I've already told you, I'm not getting into pointless rubbish about how and why trans people are different to men and women. You already know and you just want to get into a fruitless two hundred post discussion about the details. It's not solving anything. I don't care how and why trans people are different. It is not going to change the way I treat them.

We ain’t stupid or soft or nice

That;s fine, neither am I.
Although I hope I'm nice. Maybe not so much on this topic though lol

I'm not about to start administrating feminism to other people, but I certainly think a core tenet should be not calling other women idiots

YES to that

Dear Roses ... keep going please .. we need no more than you for women to achieve their individual peak trans moment

Maybe they will, as I said they'll make their own minds up when they see what's going on.
People get their eyes opened the other way though, I know I have no way of proving that, from your view I could be saying anything, but it's true.
I'll keep posting, thanks, don't worry

Petrol It's not about how you treat trans people. There are a significant number of transsexuals (of which I am one) who do NOT believe the ideology....

...who believe in single-sex spaces for women, safeguarding, that vulnerable women NEED to be protected from men/male violence in institutions like prisons.

I don't really care how you want to spin the statistics - this is going on RIGHT NOW. The "trans cult" is basically a men's rights movement based on "fluffy feelz" rather than basic biology. There are no rights that trans people are being denied - it's a movement of colonisation and erasure.

The women on this board are not some strange cult. They're some of the most educated, rational and insightful people I've come across - who have taught me a lot. Everything you ever need to know about what is going on is on these boards or in innumerable scientific articles.

Nobody is saying that trans people should be treated badly or without empathy but women's rights NEED to be protected.

I don't care how and why trans people are different. It is not going to change the way I treat them.

No-one here is denying all people should be treated as humans with various rights.

What radical feminists such as me are saying is that no male can ever be female, given our knowledge of the natural determination of sexual reproduction of any species which relies on sexual reproduction for the survival of that species.

Therefore transgenderist ideology is "hocus pocus"! There is no such material experience as a person being "born in the wrong body".

It may well be a psychological experience for some but this is not something that can be objectively measured.

And it is odd that it is mostly adult males who make such a claim.

Where are the adult females who make such a claim?