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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Peak Transing

999 replies

Apollo440 · 12/07/2019 15:05

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

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JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 16:05

Welcome to the party, Lang! Grin [and thanks for that laugh]

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 16:06

it's headed into WTF territory

It's been in that territory for some time, Roses!

How much longer is your petard?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 16:06

It's been in that territory for some time, Roses!

I know, I agree with you there at least

GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 16:09

Umm Lang if you can't cite your infinity squared thingy, then my first statement on page 2.5 (not referenced) means you're wrong because the sky was orange (or something) ConfusedHmm
Also citations will be ignored. Ner!

Lifepanic1234 this really is a mad thread! Hope to see you around, I think you'll like it here Brew
PS I still have to fight my female socialisation to 'be nice'.

PetrolBastard · 13/07/2019 16:11

This isn't even talking about the issue. It's just nit picking.

It was going well before I went to lunch! What happened!

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 16:11

Keep going, Roses .. the entertainment value is beyond price just now.

LangCleg · 13/07/2019 16:12

Umm Lang if you can't cite your infinity squared thingy, then my first statement on page 2.5 (not referenced) means you're wrong because the sky was orange (or something)

I put my hand on the collected works of Judith Butler and swore it. This makes my assertion infallible. You know this. I'm disappointed in you.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 16:12

It was going well before I went to lunch! What happened!
Not a clue either lol

LangCleg · 13/07/2019 16:13

Welcome to the party, Lang!

Don't try and suck up to me because I have more PMs than you do.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 13/07/2019 16:14

Actual LOL at your post at 15:58 GirlDownUnder

Grin
JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 16:15

Don't try and suck up to me because I have more PMs than you do.

Howling here! [and cleaning screen]

KatvonHostileExtremist · 13/07/2019 16:23

To believe humans can change from one biological sex to another, is an ideology. Anyone can choose to believe or not.

Bit like Catholicism is an ideology. I guess the protestants were peak Catholic.

I think you can apply it to any ideology. You can't force people to believe. Bully all you want. Peaking is the moment you see an ideology for the bullshit it is.

Gender dysphoria is different and clearly real. People can live in whatever gender they want, but should respect sex based rights of others.

But more important to me than all of this is why petrolbastard is anyone's favourite band. Been bothering me for days that.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 13/07/2019 16:24

Sorry to derail from the pm madness

As you where

KatvonHostileExtremist · 13/07/2019 16:24

*were

GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 16:26

I'm disappointed in you.

O. M. G. I’m dying. You slayed me. It’s all literal in here. You only had to be kind. Now I have to chose an epithet. Ffs, I’m busy!

(Fist bump for for Judith Butler tho)

Imnobody4 · 13/07/2019 16:26

Roses
I really can't believe this. You accuse people on here of being biased, only interested in one side. Well I have read loads from the TRA side, so called academic, scientific research etc etc and found it all as leaky as a colander.
Now you claim to have done that same reading and research but are unable to give any links. You're priceless and no I'm not going to share my research with you but I'd truly welcome your links and evidence.

NiceRadFem · 13/07/2019 16:27

Hello mad thread! I am the poster former known as Lifepanic1234 - you have radicalised me! (Partially, I am still nice Wink).

Peak Transing
MagneticSingularity · 13/07/2019 16:28

I’ve never* had a pm if I did I’d gladly share it with the world...um I mean I’d share that I got a pm not the contents or the sender.

Obviously when I say never, I mean on mumsnet, had LOADS of pms on other fora and social media because I’m dead dead popular everywhere except mumsnet, way more popular than LangCleg* is here - infinity to the power of infinity.

So, anyway, about that peak trans thing...

Eaudear · 13/07/2019 16:32

We can’t risk assessment every situation. But I would like to know what exactly the risk is to woman? In terms of statistics? I assume since you’re adamant it’s a big risk to woman, that there’s lots of evidence to back it up?

We segregate these kinds of places by sex, because it is recognised that men (as a class) are a risk to women, given that 98% of sexual offences are carried out by men. We don't risk assess every situation, we make blanket decisions which reduce risk. Which means that lots of men who are absolutely no threat to women whatsoever are not allowed into women's spaces. And everyone is generally fine with that.

We don't need to provide evidence that men are a risk, it's already there. And if you are saying that transwomen are not a risk, then the onus is on you to explain exactly why that is, given that they belong to the sex class which carries out the vast majority of sexual crime.

LangCleg · 13/07/2019 16:33

Now I have to chose an epithet. Ffs, I’m busy!

That's what they all say.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 16:33

Keep going, Roses .. the entertainment value is beyond price just now

You're not kidding lol

LangCleg · 13/07/2019 16:33

Partially, I am still nice

LOL! I am liking the cut of your jib.

Eaudear · 13/07/2019 16:34

Sorry, I realise that the thread has moved on from where I was last at it earlier today Blush

GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 16:37

Eaudear your post is a good one, unfortunately it'll fall on cloth ears and you'll be told to back up your points with prooooof which will all be ignored.

All that we can hope for now is the shhhh breakfast horror that daren't speak its name to kill this thread dead.

NiceRadFem · 13/07/2019 16:38

Eaudear don't apologise, it was a very informative post - I am still learning on the subject and much enjoyed it.