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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Peak Transing

999 replies

Apollo440 · 12/07/2019 15:05

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:31

Since when has it been the norm to state figures and statistics as fact though without any background cited?

sources were given though, datuns numbers were correct.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 13/07/2019 15:32

Bloody hell, it's not an academic paper that requires references for every statistic. Statistics that are readily available if you want to check the sources yourself. The first thing I learnt about FWR was that posters are expected to find out their own info and not expect others to do their research for them. The statistics quoted on here have been quoted many times by the same posters who have been posting for as long as I can remember. These posters are very intelligent and well read and I've never known them make any claim without backing it up at some point on a thread or with reference to an earlier thread.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:35

This is the purpose of allowing our sisters to Peak Trans in their own time. One by one they arrive

That's fine then, people decide where they're comfortable.
Do you know that it has the opposite effect of "unpeaking" or whatever the reverse is too?
People who were previously "on your side" (for want of a better phrase) see all this and have their eyes opened but not in the way you mean it?
People make their own minds up.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:37

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GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 15:37

Roses since you're studiously ignoring me, please do post the links from someone from the opposite viewpoint, so to speak.

I'm happy to read, and actually engage. You seem to demand 'citations' and not even come back to comment. Seems a bit rude 🤷‍♀️

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 15:37

I meant read links from someone from the opposite viewpoint, so to speak.

Please can you supply any credible sources for an opposing viewpoint that are based in any material reality?

Thank you.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:38

I've never known them make any claim without backing it up at some point on a thread or with reference to an earlier thread
Well that's strange then, as it's happened on this thread.

Fraggling · 13/07/2019 15:39

Loads of people have read the opposing arguments, thought wtaf, and bingo peak tra welcome to mumsnet.

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 15:39

Do you know that it has the opposite effect of "unpeaking" or whatever the reverse is too?

Please cite your sources for this statement. Thank you.

Fraggling · 13/07/2019 15:41

The opposing arguments make no logical sense whatsoever.

They also mean that women and girls, females, have no word any more, as a group.

I have major issues with that.

That's before you even get into all the stuff that's going on as a result of this, women locked in prison with rapists with functional dicks, sports, no place allowed for cunty women to be together any more, what's going on with girls etc etc

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:41

Please cite your sources for this statement. Thank you.

Well, there's me for one.
I'm not about to start posting any pm's out of respect for other's privacy though, sorry.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 13/07/2019 15:42

Oh, so it's just anecdotal sources you have then? Hmmm.

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 15:42

Well, there's me for one. I'm not about to start posting any pm's out of respect for other's privacy though, sorry.

ROFL!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:43

People make their own minds up.

Yes, humans tend to do that.
Funny how it actually only seems to be one way, but that's humans for you.

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:44

ROFL!

Roffle all you like, I'm not sure how else to prove it to you without posting pm's though?

MIdgebabe · 13/07/2019 15:44

So you are upset because someone other than datun dug out the sources that you couldn’t be bothered to find yourself? why did it have tbe datum? It’s a multi party conversation. Comes across as bullying to me.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:44

Well, there's me for one.
I'm not about to start posting any pm's out of respect for other's privacy though, sorry.

Do you have statistics?

JackyHolyoake · 13/07/2019 15:46

I'm not sure how else to prove it to you without posting pm's though?

Given the standard to which you hold the rest of us, if you have no objective evidence to support your assertions, maybe it is better to avoid making such assertions at all?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:47

So you are upset because someone other than datun dug out the sources that you couldn’t be bothered to find yourself
No, I wasn't upset, I said thank you to those who posted it.
why did it have tbe datum?
Because she's the one who posted as fact which is why I asked where it came from? Because people tend to back up what they claim, they always used to do anyway.

GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 15:48

Do you have statistics?

D'er it's obvs 100% just like I said. I gave legit stats and everything.

Grin
CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:49

Because she's the one who posted as fact which is why I asked where it came from? Because people tend to back up what they claim, they always used to do anyway

Does the sources for Datuns statistic coming from someone else make them less accurate?

Or are you upset that someone didn't do as you demanded?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:49

Not only didn't do as you wanted, but asked you to do it?

RosesAndRaindrops · 13/07/2019 15:49

if you have no objective evidence to support your assertions

I do though, I could copy and paste a couple of names and messages now but I'm not about to.
If you think of a way I could prove it without posting dm's let me know.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 13/07/2019 15:50

I'd like a Cochrane review please if you'd care to provide one. Failing that, any statistics from a reliable source. Complete with Harvard referencing please.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 15:51

That's the bases of this whole thing isn't it, someone openly said no to you, and you've gone on about it for pages and pages.

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