Women don't have penises

[jellybean85]

Just in service station and it seems the word is spreading! See next comment for pic

Since you're here petrolbastard and you insist that transwomen are women, could you answer a question? Women as a class (adult human female) share characteristics that are not shared with men. Can you give me one characteristic that transwomen share with women and not men. I'll wait.

why is Karen White's right to be treated like a woman more important than the right of women prisoners to safety, privacy and dignity

I think I know the answer to this one Bernard...

Transwomen should be treated the same as any other woman

how are we defining 'woman' here?

Is it 'dresses like a woman'?

Is it 'acts like a woman'?

Is it 'thinks like a woman'?

Is it 'feels like a woman'?

oh, oh, how about 'runs like a girl'?

You can wait all you like. I'm not getting into ridiculous arguments about the differences between women and transwomen. It doesn't matter to me. They should be treated equally.

Well, you've made your views absolutely clear. What you've failed to do is persuade any of us to share them. In fact I suspect for anyone reading, who was wavering over whether they believed TWAW, your posts may well have functioned as a reductio ad aburdum, and they may have realised that appeals to female socialisation (be nice, there's a good girl) and pretend to believe actually have real world consequences which are completely unacceptable.

Karen White is not female. He should not have been placed in a women's prison.

(Reminder for the mods - Justine said we didn't have to use female pronouns for convicted rapists.)

so is it lady brain that makes a woman?

long hair and dangly earrings?

being submissive?

if it's not being born with a vulva, then what is it?
you're very sure that these males are women, so you must know the answer Petrol

how are we defining women here?
Magic gender escence. Surely you can tell Karen White has it?

is this a woman?

I like his frock. But Iggie's probably a bit too assertive - right?

I used to think feminists had positive attitudes but since I joined mumsnet I've realised they're transphobic, sexist, small minded and generally just nasty.

Also transgender people aren't invading your spaces... in a public toilet you have your own cubicle.

they're transphobic, sexist, small minded and generally just nasty

Ooh, the distress flare went up!

Isn't it marvellous how people want to turn the whole criminal justice system upside down to the extent of putting male rapists into women's prisons but aren't prepared to define what they mean by "woman"?

It's so manipulative to say "I just don't hate transwomen" and in the same breath say transwomen rapists like Karen White should be incarcerated with women...
As if saying TWAM is "hate". It's not hate.

Saying a person would be better off recognising reality is not "hating" them. No one here hates transwomen. But sorry, TWAM. End of. We need to prioritize women and their safety in feminism.

It's the same age old argument that "feminists hate men", because we bring up facts such as that 98% of sexual crime is committed by men and 80% of all violent crime is committed by men, and therefore we need to think about women who are overwhelmingly on the receiving end of these crimes and this is a fundamental issue in feminism.

Centering women in feminism is not "hating" men (/transwomen). Get over it.

well PetrolBastard won't help to understand what makes a woman if it's not biology, so maybe you can Chickenwing

you're happy to sling insults around on the basis of how sure you are that some males are women. so how are we defining 'woman'. I want to find out if I am one

I'm not getting into ridiculous arguments about the differences between women and transwomen. It doesn't matter to me. They should be treated equally. Of course you're not. Because you can't.
But given your lack of any cohesive argument mind if we don't take your assurance that Karen White is a woman.

Also transgender people aren't invading your spaces... in a public toilet you have your own cubicle

So a male bodied person couldn't ever force a smaller, weaker female person into said cubicle in order to assault them? Oh wait, yes they could.

metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

,((( so sad so nasty feminists. You want everything including all the loos

:(((

They should be treated equally.

I agree, everyone should have equal rights.

We don't need a definition. Here's how it is supposed to work so we can live in equality and peace.

A man says he wants to be henceforth known as a transwoman. Now we must all treat him exactly like he actually is a biological woman. In all ways. The women are not allowed to say, um, no, you are actually a man, so bog off out of my sports/prison/awards

This shows that he and women are equals.

If women object that means they don't believe in equality.

They are thus oppressors of the downtrodden. They deserve bad things.

Feminists on mumsnet actually shit all over the true definition of feminism. It's for equality between both sexes, not "fuck men, pro women." I hope you never have a close friend or relative who struggles with their gender identity because your attitudes are extremely insensitive.

Transwomen are adult male transsexuals. Biology doesn’t lie, individuals may not like it but it is still true.

Haven't seen one of these threads for ages. . They never seem to cotton on that they themselves are the best resource for peak transing any lurkers.

Equal rights should mean
Man demands "call me by she/her pronouns"
Women say "naah it's ok love"

Equality!

Bad feminists.

Chicken wings tell us how to do it better.

I might not even be a feminist. Don’t misfeminist me