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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women don't have penises

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jellybean85 · 10/07/2019 12:26

Just in service station and it seems the word is spreading! See next comment for pic Grin

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JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 17:44

"There is no legislation that means you have whomever you please removed from someone else's private property. You may be able to get the landowner on board with having their permission to be on site removed, but there is no crime of 'being a man in a women's toilet'"

A private business offering toilet, washing, changing facilities etc to its clientele is providing a service to the public,

As I said earlier: Schedule 3, section 27, subsection 6 states:

(6)The condition is that—

(a)the service is provided for, or is likely to be used by, two or more persons at the same time, and

(b)the circumstances are such that a person of one sex might reasonably object to the presence of a person of the opposite sex.

Therefore, where those facilities are offered to two or more people of one sex simultaneously any person of the opposite sex who enters such a single sex facility can be ejected if an objection is raised to the presence of that opposite sex person.

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 17:48

No, a bathroom in a pub is not a public service. This would not apply. It's down to the landowner who is allowed to be in which part of the building at which time. It is not a criminal offence to be in a women's toilet.

sackrifice · 12/07/2019 17:50

Surely the only people that can 'live as a woman', are women?

JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 17:51

bathroom in a pub is not a public service.

Yes, it is. The users of a pub or similar establishment are the public [ie: not private members]. The toilet facilities constitute a service to that public.

Subsection 6 is therefore legally applicable.

Ereshkigal · 12/07/2019 17:54

Well you are certainly not allowed to change planning laws.

You have created an unlikely hypothetical situation that you're making up and drip feeding about as you go along. You are literally allowed to do this and anything else in your scenario. Quite what the point is...

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 17:54

No, it isn't. It's private land. If the landowner wants to make all of the toilets gender neutral, they're entitled to do so.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/07/2019 17:55

Surely the toilets in a public house are a public service

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 17:57

No, the landowner owns the property and it is not a criminal offence for someone to be on that property unless the landowner says they are trespassing. Trespassing is a crime. Being in the toilet is not a crime.

JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 17:59

It's private land. If the landowner wants to make all of the toilets gender neutral, they're entitled to do so.

Firstly, I believe that most pubs and similar premises are leasehold. So the issue of "landowner" is a red herring here.

Beyond that, any pub or similar premises manager who renders all toilets mixed sex is likely to lose its female clientele on safety and privacy grounds. If such a manager is prepared to do that, so be it.

TimeLady · 12/07/2019 17:59

I might try copying this drawing of a grey rock on my fiver.

Women don't have penises
JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 18:00

Dearie me, Petrol. The Equality Act 2010 is Civil Law not criminal law!

AlwaysComingHome · 12/07/2019 18:02

Trespassing is a crime. Being in the toilet is not a crime.

It is while you are trespassing.

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 18:02

Exactly. You can't call the police to have people removed from the toilet. It's not a criminal offence.

Ereshkigal · 12/07/2019 18:02

Trespassing is also a civil matter, I think.

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 18:03

The landowner has to decide that you are trespassing.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 12/07/2019 18:04

Women don’t have penises

Just getting back to the OP Wink

Eaudear · 12/07/2019 18:07

Yeah can we get back to the point which is that IF YOU HAVE A DICK YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN!!!

JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 18:07

You can't call the police to have people removed from the toilet. It's not a criminal offence.

It would be up to the management of the premises whether the police are called or not.

Any woman objecting would refer her objection to that management who may choose to involve their security staff, if such are available or may choose to call police.

Beyond that, if the encounter with a male in a female space involved indecent exposure or voyeurism that is, of course, a crime within the terms of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and so police would need to be called.

AlwaysComingHome · 12/07/2019 18:07

Pubs make money by channeling fluids through you as quickly as possible.

In one end and out the other.*

When there’s nowhere safe for you to discharge fluids you are going to stop taking it in.

After sufficient intake, of course, your digestive track I might no longer be binary and fluids may exit the way they came in. This is why we invented Pernot, which tastes the same whichever way it is travelling.

PetrolBastard · 12/07/2019 18:09

You're repeating what I just said.

Ereshkigal · 12/07/2019 18:09

Beyond that, if the encounter with a male in a female space involved indecent exposure or voyeurism that is, of course, a crime within the terms of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and so police would need to be called.

Yep.

JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 18:10

Given that 95% + of men who present themselves with what they believe to be femininity most of them do have a penis.

Ereshkigal · 12/07/2019 18:13

But you totes can't tell they're not women.

Datun · 12/07/2019 18:17

It is quite astonishing that petrol is so determined that women's consent to their boundaries being violated is dismissed.

You, Petrol, are underminding women's consent, boundaries, safety, privacy and dignity. You're even doing it in a hypothetical situation.

You are utterly determined that women won't be able to say no. You constitute a risk to women. By your huge motivation to undermine their consent.

And you wonder why there are hordes of women flocking to this website, and the gender critical movement specifically, to stop you.

JackyHolyoake · 12/07/2019 18:17

Did I forget to mention the case law here, whereby it is established in law that if a person does not have a GRC the legal comparator is the sex transitioned from and not the aspired sex?

So, if a male person cannot provide a Birth Certificate that says "female" or vice versa he must be treated the same as all other males and females must be treated the same as all other females.

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