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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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Whackitupto200 · 08/07/2019 09:27

JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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Satterthwaite · 08/07/2019 13:06

I can't help sniggering at the title 'member' ha ha ha Grin

Gingerkittykat · 08/07/2019 13:09

Jy was hospitalised for a week, presumably for psychiatric care, and the parent recognises that this court case is likely to trigger further mental decline, or that JY is already acting from a place where they are mentally unwell.

Parent is either equally unhinged or acting from a place of genuine concern. Does anyone know how recent this hospitalisation was or what it was for?

TirisfalPumpkin · 08/07/2019 13:15

The absorbent material + delicate arse tissue... that can’t be healthy.

Originally I thought it was about the waxing and it just being standard entitlement to ‘woman things’, but no - going by what JY has said it was about making the poor woman spot the tampon string and work around it. Non-consensual fetish play.

Question - as JY is largely notorious for sexually harassing women, racist tweeting and envisaging helping little girls with tampons - surely this falls under the ‘Karen White’ clause in the forum guidelines, ie we are not required to use preferred pronouns of those primarily known for sexual predation?

Or is it just those convicted of same?

ManyBoysMum · 08/07/2019 13:17

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FeministCat · 08/07/2019 13:18

Manderleyagain

Yes the member is the administrative law judge. Current members are here:

www.bchrt.bc.ca/tribunal/about-us/members/index.htm

sneakypinky · 08/07/2019 13:19

He sounds like a mad pervert.

FeministCat · 08/07/2019 13:20

The absorbent material + delicate arse tissue... that can’t be healthy.

Oh some of them will, uh, preload them with tomato juice etc and freeze them. But yeah, it’s not a fetish or anything...Confused

Oldrockman · 08/07/2019 13:27

Oh some of them will, uh, preload them with tomato juice etc and freeze them. But yeah, it’s not a fetish or anything...confused*

And then they have the nerve to accuse lesbians of having a genital fetish due to them being attracted to women rather than men dressed as women.

sackrifice · 08/07/2019 13:56

Going back to the original link above...

"Gender identity is a person’s sense of themselves as male, female, both, in between or neither. It includes people who identify as transgender. Gender identity may be different or the same as the sex a person is assigned at birth."

How can you protect in law, a sense of anything that can be anything you want it to be? as and when you want it?

AnyOldPrion · 08/07/2019 14:29

I understand that mentally ill people should be protected under the law, but when a person is harassing many other people to this extent, it’s terrifying that the justice system would even consider backing them up.

Forcing a woman (via the law) to handle your male genitalia seems tantamount to sexual assault.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 08/07/2019 14:32

This whole story is mind blowing.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 08/07/2019 14:34

The only news outlet that’s touched it so far is The Economist afaik

Thanks due to Helen Joyce I think Flowers

martinidry · 08/07/2019 14:56

It would have been very unfortunate if JY had found a female-client-only professional who was willing to accede to his demands. The operator's lack of experience of working on male genitalia could have been disastrous. Spilt hot wax on the genitals must be very painful.

I would have been so sad if that had happened to JY.

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TirisfalPumpkin · 08/07/2019 15:05

Tomato juice is acidic. That is going to be one sorry bum.

This is surely a public interest story. Are the press really so scared of being sued? Don’t they have a budget for this kind of thing?

RedToothBrush · 08/07/2019 15:24

It's not a woman's job to validate anyone else be they male or female.

There should be an expectation of civility and respect but that has to be mutual.

If there is no mutual respect then a woman is entitled to tell someone to piss off.

JY set out to entrap and to force validation. It showed contempt for the women he approached. It was deliberate to shock, degrade and humiliate by forcing submission to him.

And that's before you add in the sexual element to the dynamic.

These women owe him nothing.

And I use the word him because the court has already said at the time of this incident JY was still going by male names by his choice and only changed that afterwards so it can't have been causing that much distress at the time. His gender identity was only important when it served his interests not because it was wholly unbearable to be referred to in a male way. Thus 'him' as a pronoun is appropriate and highly relevant to the case concerned.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/07/2019 15:35

Tomato juice is acidic. That is going to be one sorry bum.

I would assume discomfort adds to the 'real' experience.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/07/2019 15:36

This is surely a public interest story. Are the press really so scared of being sued? Don’t they have a budget for this kind of thing?

Most of the press do as they are told, the government want this, so it's kept out of the press.

popehilarious · 08/07/2019 15:53

@ManyBoysMum sorry I felt I had to report your post as naming the person involved is apparently in breach of the publication ban. Don't want to give any ammunition. You could repost without any identifying info?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/07/2019 15:55

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/07/2019 15:57

the publication ban

Apparently?
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Which country?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 08/07/2019 16:10

I thought it was interesting when the Member said that JY couldn't bring in other evidence "not relevant to this action" as JY has had "privacy laws" enforced around this tribunal and they "cannot have it both ways", as then JY's "other internet activities" will also need to be considered relevant evidence.

I really hope the Member (are they male, or female does anyone know?) is aware of JY's "other internet activities"... You know how in American court drama they sidebar or meet in chambers and the lawyers tell the judge their evidence and the judge decides whether the jury can hear it - I wonder if the Member is aware.

picklemepopcorn · 08/07/2019 16:11

Barking.