Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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For fucks sake, on the more updated tweets..

JY asks BH why she is scared about periods.

Not wanting to do an intimate wax on someone whilst they are on their (hypothetical of course in this case ) period does not make someone scared of periods..

Where can the updates tweets be seen if one is not on Twitter?

This case is asking for a legal precedent to be set as to whether gender identity takes precedent over all other protected characteristics and women's rights

If JY wins that the beauticians still have the right to say waxing a penis and scrotum is not a service they provide.The refusal has nothing to do with protected characteristics. It never was. They don't provide this service to any body with that configuration. Having that configuration is not a disability.

It's no different from a basic barber shop saying, sorry I don't do that fancy highlight thing involving tin foil- not because of your "protected characteristic" but because I don't know how to and don't want to learn how to.

Absolutely batshit. There should be a desert island, or even better, a distant planet, for deviants like that. The parents sound equally batshit. Why on earth would paramedics be needed?? It's like the script of a really shit, spoof teenage film.

Some serious mental health issues going on here, JY needs treatment, not validation.

Satterthwaite it's only a twitter thread at the mo. But you can see most of twitter even if you are not on twitter (possibly not on a phone). Follow the link upthread and see what you can see.

Thanks Manderleyagain. I found the link in the other thread and it's been updated.

What. The. Actual. Fuck 😱

I'm reading the parent thing as the parent attempting to stop the case because they think JY has MH issues.

Flavia that's how I read it too

JY just tweeted Hmm... obviously I can answer this.

Some sort of patient questionnaire? JY getting thrills from it no doubt. What does this do to someone with obvious MH issues. And surely health care providers don't believe humans can change sex....

I agree Lass , you'd think it's an open and shut case, but JY is pressing the view that conflict with religion should not be considered as a valid reason to 'opt out' as JY puts it. JY is asking for a hierarchy of need that puts trans at the top as the trump card.

I had thought that this would be as simple as you say: not a service provided by this business. But the court seem to be allowing all kinds of debate and bullshit into this situation. I don't understand why.

It may well be selfish because clearly JY is not well at all, but I'm glad the parent was unable to stop proceedings. This stuff needs to be drawn to the public's attention. Mindboggling that the mainstream media isn't there. What's happened to Canada?

JY is pressing the view that conflict with religion should not be considered as a valid reason to 'opt out'

And yet gynecologists can opt out of giving women abortions on religious grounds

I'm reading the parent thing as the parent attempting to stop the case

I assumed it was because if JYs ill health? (brain tumour, strokes, and some other stuff too I think?)

but JY is pressing the view that conflict with religion should not be considered as a valid reason to 'opt out' as JY puts it. JY is asking for a hierarchy of need that puts trans at the top as the trump card

UK law puts disability over religion (Muslim taxi driver refusing to take a guide dog was discrimination)

I read the Twitter thread- perhaps it was a mistake emphasising the beautician was a Sikh rather than a beautician with no relevant expertise and training. You can't be forced to provide a service where you have no competency.

The reporting restrictions are ridiculous. The world and its spouse knows who JY is.

I've just read a bit more about JY and feel sick. An off planet cage is the safest place for perverts like that. The period and tampon obsession is disgusting.

This whole thing is crackers maracas, i am boggled by it

Jy is an absolute car crash of a human

Given JY was basically balldemort for a long time, even using his name at all was an instant deletion and ban on so much of the internet..I would say the restrictions are totally within character and usual for anything to do with this disgusting paedophile pervert. Stupid decision by whoever made it, but within character, and what one would expect to experience in anything to do with him.

I'm interested in the Canadian system's duty of care towards the complainant.

If the person bringing the complaint is, even to this arm chair psychiatrist, bat shit, e.g. citing examples of menstruation which is irrelevant to their case, and the twitter trail showing that they are clearly a bit of a worry - don't they have a duty of care to have ht complainant assessed before putting them up int he legal system?

I mean. It's just so nonsensical.

"This whole thing is crackers maracas, i am boggled by it "

You win MN tonight madame.

I wonder if the court is taking it so seriously so that when (I hope) the case is thrown out and JY has to pay substantial damages; there will be no grounds for appeal.

From the tweets - which are clearly taken from notes after each day's proceeding it is important to say - it seems that JY is being given a lot of opportunities to make his case as clearly and in as much detail as he demands. He is being given quite a bit of guidance & help from the "Member" - the person presiding over the hearing, who sounds wise & compassionate.

I'm hoping he's being given enough rope to hang himself, as they say. BTW, of course I don't really believe anyone should hang themselves or be hanged!

JY is ill and I can only imagine how his parent must feel. It's so sad.

He's a predator.

LassOfFyvie since there's apparently no qualification available for waxing male genitals I wonder if it wouldn't still turn into a he said / she said situation regarding competence and whether it was being used as an excuse.

The tweets do make it all sound completely mad. Amazed no press there. Our press would love his although JY does sound mentally ill. The menstrual period obsession is both mad and creepy. Coming soon...to a changing room near you.

Should the lack of a formal qualification matter? The beautician had never done it before and didn't want to do something she knew nothing about.

There must be other trades where there isn't necessarily a qualification (or there is but not everyone has a formal qualification) but tradespeople draw the line because it is outwith their competency.