Straight Man elected as Labour LGBT Officer 😂

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Oh the irony! Watch the woke folk implode with self-righteous indignation!

Karma?

I think its simply, want to be seen as being more interesting than a regular straight people

Yep, queer is such a meaningless term now. I was reading a wedding blog the other day where they were gushing over a ‘queer’ wedding. It was literally a man and a woman getting married, as they’ve done for thousands of years, but the woman identified as non-binary and had pink hair etc. It was tagged with #LGBT ffs. I’m bi, but when I married my husband I didn’t know I was having a stunning, brave occasion!

If we adopt the phrase I think it needs to be the full one Buzz.

Misogynistic hypocritical wanktrumpet

Mustn't forget the hypocritical part

The LGBT+Labour thread is wonderfully one-eyed in its wokeness (the definition of wokeness I suppose) but it's also really troubling. Every post that points out the parallels between this incident and men being appointed as women's officers is dismissed with a 'TW are women' or 'they are not men, they are female' response. Plus a dash of 'terf/bigot/transphobe' invective to shut us up.
And language matters. If we can't define ourselves as an oppressed class, as women, we lose the ability to assert / defend our rights. Women's right to be represented by women is being rapidly undermined and the reality deliberately obscured by the TWAW mantra. This is so clearly a misogynist agenda. Depressing.

A good time for one of my favourite quotes about the Labour Party:
'For the men, not the many.'
Wish I'd thought of it first.

I'm only surprised that the radicalisation portal that is MN FWR has not been blamed. There is still time and maybe that is what is taking LOJ so long to respond he is trying to find a way to shoe-horn in a diatribe about the horrors of MN FWR and how it is all our fault.

Oh glorious day! As my wise old Nan used to say.... They don't like it up 'em!

From that twitter thread: “If everyone is special, then no one is.”

Quite. How many times do we have to point out the blindingly bleeding obvious before they get it? Perhaps they’ll get it now.

From that twitter thread: “If everyone is special, then no one is.”

It’s from The Incredibles and I love that line.

What comes across is a level of entitlement. Rohit stood for election. He was not elected. He calls foul.

He may be right that like in the Lily example, the person standing against him could not contribute the experience required to do the role well. But tough. He did not complain about Lily, so cant really complain now.

What is interesting is who stood against him, and why. And why did he gain more votes. Is it like the bloke a year or so back who did a reverse Man Friday and temporally ID'd as a woman to stand for a woman's role, purely to make a point. So a protest against the woke.

Or is it that the queers, kinks, furries and pups are in sufficient ascendancy to overtake the gays.

Either way I can see why our entitled Rohit is cross.

The fact that gay people vote for a straight man suggests they have thought the gay candidate might have been more interested in representing trans issues than gay ones. A straight person in that role really won’t get away with failing to represent the L, the G & the B for long.

I’m bi, but when I married my husband I didn’t know I was having a stunning, brave occasion!

Do you become straight, if you are bi but marry the opposite sex? Or are bi people married to the opposite sex the most oppressed people ever because everyone says they are straight thus have undergone conversion therapy as they are regarded as no longer LGBT? Except they still are, cos they still fancy both sexes? They are not LGBT+ enough unless they also have a same sex relationship and are therefore poly? And if they aren't poly they have been erased?

This stuff is important.

Obviously.

The vote was by some people at a meeting, as far as I can decipher. The Right people all flounced in outrage at the Wrong people so the wrong lot all got to vote and the right lot didn't.

It's all very JPF.

Can anyone tell me, is this the kind of position that would not be filled if there wasn't a member of the community to fill it, as I believe the women's officer position is?

The Woman on Wednesday man got suspended by Labour:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3256772-Guess-how-I-got-suspended-from-the-Labour-Party

What's the point of a woman's officer?

I was a member of the Labour Party but I never got involved with the local party.
I don't really see what the point is. If it's to promote the female point of view can't female members do that at constituency meetings?

This Twitter thread from another member of Newham CLP appears to explain some of the context. It was tweeted before the vote at the AGM took place.

twitter.com/JoshuaGarfield/status/1144228241537929218

There appears to be ongoing issues within the local party. These have included allegations of homophobic behaviour. There are also allegations of racism, anti-Semitism and misogyny. It appears LGBT members may have stayed away from the AGM because of this behaviour. In their absence, the new candidate won.

I imagine any investigation will focus on whether members were intimidated out of attending and if so whether that had an effect on the result. Given a number of prominent Labour party members who might normally be expected to comment on this case have not, I suspect there's a general bar about mentioning it on social media, especially given the current row over Chris Williamson and anti-Semitism within the party more broadly.

As far as I can tell, Joshua Garfield IS the "str8 white man" Rohit is complaining about.

Judging by the twitter thread, there is a LOT more going on than just one little officer election!

hypocritical wanktrumpets
Come on, own up, own up. That tweet was by one of youse, wasn't it?

All very tangled.

A few years ago Labour would have elected a gay man or a lesbian to be the LGB officer.

They would have elected a woman (cunty type) to be Women's Officer.

They would have elected somebody who was clearly black, mixed race or from another minority ethnic group to be the BAME rep.

Do they have a Disability rep too? If so, I'd expect that post to be open only to people with a disability.

A trans person could easily have been elected to another officer job on his/her own merits, or as the Disability or BAME rep if they qualified. The numbers were so tiny I don't suppose anybody thought they needed special representation.

All done to try to dilute the over-representation of straight white men in politics. I'm not a member of any political party but I'd be surprised if one benefit of this system wasn't that it guarantees the rep a chance to speak/report at meetings, and for that brief period the SWM have to shut up.

So far, so fine.

But then Labour followed Stonewall and LGB became LGBT and now LGBTQI+++ or whatever it is, and self-identification, acceptance without exception and all the other Pomo nonsense is de rigeur.

It was obvious from that point on there were going to be problems. Women have been trying to point this out for years now and have not only been ignored, but disciplined and expelled from the party.

So here we are. Anybody is what they say they are. Woman is a feeling in the head. Man likewise. It's bigoted to concern yourself with someone else's biology. Anybody can identify as queer, and even though nobody knows what it means it has the gratifying effect of elevating you into the most oppressed group on earth. (It seems to be a synonym for humourless.)

I assume the next step is that anybody can self-identify as BAME or disabled. Rachel Dolezal put the former back for a bit, but give it time.

The hypocrisy and muddled thinking on display here is hilarious but it's also really, really depressing. What's happened to our politicians? Why are they all so thick?

There's a video on that thread, Threehoursfromhome, that clarifies things a bit. A Muslim bloke speaks of the stuff being taught in schools. He doesn't focus on the LGB elements. What really seems to bother him is the gender stuff. Kids are getting the message that they can change sex. They're coming home from school confused and upset.

Again it's the constant woke focus on the T that's screwing things up for the LGB and alienating working class voters. It's an attempt to force social change without gaining allies and acceptance. Same as those Goldsmiths students in Deptford (I think it was) who had no idea how irrelevant their abstractions about gender were to the people they were supposed to be helping.

I say working class but of course it's not limited by class. I'm middle class and I've got no time for it either.

Parents who, whatever their faith and personal opinion, understand that LGB rights are the law are finding trans ideology a step far too far. And if my DC were of an age for this stuff I'd withdraw them from this dangerous nonsense without hesitation.

Bloody hell it's been staring us all in the face and we missed it.

Garfield must be a furrie 🐈

I haven't been closely following what's going on with the Birmingham protests and the No Outsiders (is that what it's called?) teaching materials. Can anyone link to a good, clear summary?

Like almost everybody here, I want children to learn in school, if they don't learn it at home, that some people are same-sex attracted and that's absolutely fine. I want them to be told that gender stereotypes are meaningless and that being gender nonconforming is not only not a problem, it's positively to be encouraged. I would also like children from quite an early age to learn about bodily autonomy as a precursor to more explicit teaching about consent in a sexual context when they're older.

I absolutely don't want young children told that you pick your own gender and that biological sex is irrelevant.

I can't ally myself with religious fundamentalists who have backwards notions about gender roles. But I can't go with the pomo crew either.

How can we get across that objection to gender theory isn't hate speech and isn't driven by right-wing, fundamentalist groups?

This by Shelley Charlesworth
www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

Thanks, R0wan! Will read that now.

Good posts Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g and Prawnofthepatriarchy.

I wonder if labour see the problem and if so, are they are going to do anything about it?