Why can’t transgender lesbians just date each other?

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I keep seeing online transgender women so angry a female lesbian doesn’t want to date someone trans, but it begs the question why can’t they just date each other?

If they genuinely believe a trans woman is without question a woman and they are attracted to women then surely this would solve all their problems in terms of finding a partner? They could just date each other? Unless they don’t want to date trans women because they don’t see trans women as real women? Hmm

Everyone does have a unique genetic profile. the primary sex hormone of women are a group of estrogens along with progesterone, all of which can and are synthesized to my understanding and have varying impacts upon the human body’s development

what I did say is that absolutely some self-identified lesbians are attracted to transexual woman, and some would have transexual women partners. This is simply factual.

A 'self identified' lesbian who is a man, who is attested to a 'transexual woman', who is also a man. That is a male homosexual couple.

Lesbians are females, not attracted to men.

You might want to check the UK equality act, if you're not sure.

The definition of a woman is not 'a man who ingests female hormones 😂'

these did not occur in the last six weeks, but the last 12 months. I don’t understand why everyone is attempting to like slip me up or catch me in some kind of deception? I’m really being as honest as I can here and again remaining respectful in the process.

There is a great diversity in the physical characteristics of both men and women

men who enjoy role playing as women do know that they’re larping as a distinct class of people right?

Still, I’m afraid I’ve been misunderstood

Oh don’t worry. I think we understand you perfectly.

In this case, I was actually referring to people who identify as lesbians and were born with vaginas. I apologize for the confusing moment, and I do understand that you believe transexual women are men. That is clear, and I would never try and convince you otherwise. I respect your opinion and thank you for your contribution.

I am gonna have to get going here pretty soon. I’ve given a lot of time to this conversation. And I thank you all for your interest in me and my experiences.

I’m afraid you haven’t, and we will have to agree to disagree :-) thanks for your comment

I'm not the slightest bit interested in you or you experiences.

Lesbians are women who are attracted to other women. Not men.

Whether trans women are males pretending to be women or not is again completely beyond the scope of what I wrote, and has little to do with what I expressed about my experiences or the experiences of others. I’m not sure why you all keep trying to return to this point.

Because what I did say is that absolutely some self-identified lesbians are attracted to transexual woman,

If you agree no lesbian can be a male, then that's fine.

Because you have revived a zombie thread with ‘ experiences’ that have nothing to do with the thread

people are getting the thread back on track

thanks for your comment.

Definitions of things do change and are contestable. The OED was written to capture the language in use of people, not to enforce it. Whatever you believe a man or a woman to be might not be the definition in the dictionary in a few years, and it won’t be the standard by which your beliefs are probably set by then either.

You thinking the earth is flat doesn't make it flat.

Oh, are you playing the 'we're all just individual bundles of hormones contained in an outer wrapper that may randomly come with a penis or a vagina' number? The TRAs gave up on that nonsense in 2019 or so. They moved on to arguing that intersex people prove there aren't two sexes but an endless spectrum of sexes. They gave that one up, too, when faced with the reality of large gametes and small gametes and the challenge to find someone of a third sex, or a person who hadn't been born from the body of a female.

Veronica, luvvie, you need to update your handbook of 'facts'.

In my opinion, what I have done is expressed a lot of views from my perspectives and experiences that expanded the conversation you all had. I have made every effort to do that respectfully of your beliefs and patiently.

@Veronicawiththefacts are you seriously suggesting that in a few years humanity will have no need for words that accurately describe the reproductive capability of mammals including humans? That science will not need to distinguish between those who produce large gametes and those that produce small motile gametes? That there won't be a need for a word to describe adult humans who fall under either of those two categories?

You haven't responded to my point that the word lesbian isn't up for debate / opinion. It is not something to be decided by males either.

You coming here about your experiences is about trying to assert power and control over women.

Your experiences are somehow more important / relevant to the experiences of lesbians in your head.

Except there's a whole bunch of women saying no. No they are not. Which you don't seem to like very much. I wonder why?

I refer to Rule 3 of Misogyny.

You expanded the conversation by me-railing

thats not very respectful

You do realise you're playing with the grown-ups here, don't you? This isn't TikTok.

Dunno about AGP but getting a strong whiff of grandiose narcissism...

I wouldn’t never insult you or bully you or assume you’re a child because you have contrary views. I understand these are perhaps deeply cherished beliefs of yours, and I would never insult them. it’s not really for me to judge

Deciding that men can 'self identify' as lesbians is the opposite of respect.

They cant. It's homophobic.

I would never attempt to assert power and control over anyone regardless of gender. I merely speak for my own experiences. I have zero agenda in changing your mind or redefining you.