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Potential Systemic Safeguarding failures in NSPCC / Childline illustrated by appointment & ending of relationship with Munroe Bergdorf Thread 2

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R0wantrees · 13/06/2019 13:05

link to previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3605120-Munroe-Childline-s-first-LGBT-campaigner

NSPCC statement by CEO Peter Wanless
www.nspcc.org.uk/what-we-do/news-opinion/munroe-bergdorf

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3609218-Hi-from-Safe-Schools-Alliance-UK

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 17:02

They’re cowards. It’s a disgrace, and he deserves a private life which is separate from his work life.”

He stuck his private life on the Internet without privacy settings.

Perhaps PinkNews would like a copy of the Internet for Idiots.

Next!

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/06/2019 17:16

Yes summer, men controlling women and getting off on it.

Dr Em posted a link to a Sheila Jeffrey's book on Monday which has a very interesting chapter in it on this.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/06/2019 17:17

radfem.org/unpacking-queer-politics/

P72....

NoSquirrels · 14/06/2019 17:18

Oh my - that Spectator article by James Kirkup is OUTSTANDING.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/06/2019 17:21

P74 too.

R0wantrees · 14/06/2019 17:23

I discovered World Rubber Men at the time and lied about my age. Sorry, Recon. At the time, I didn’t think I looked 15, I thought I looked 18. I look back now at those pictures and think that I look like a child and I shouldn’t have been on there. It was a baptism of fire. Learning things that a 15 year old doesn’t necessarily need to know about.

This is right at the heart of the issue.
A child who was being bullied & is trying to work out his sexuality/identity with access to an extreme unmoderated adult fetish group is very vulnerable.
Teenagers can be easily groomed by adults who have no understanding of Safeguarding or Child Protection.
Extreme acts can become normalised with very distorted boundaries.
Unregulated online forums will attract predatory males.

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FaithFrank · 14/06/2019 17:23

The statement from Peter Wanless said there was 'a failure of our systems and processes'. The Twitter response to Sarah Phillimore says 'it's a personnel issue and we won't comment further'. It's deflection.

I don't give a shit about rubberman. SP was asking about safeguarding systems and processes. They couldn't even manage a 'we are conducting a review' type of response.

Ambroise · 14/06/2019 17:24

Jo Bartosch has written about this on Uncommon Ground Media.

uncommongroundmedia.com/nspcc-employee-films-himself-masturbating-at-work/

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/06/2019 17:31

There's certainly distorted and boundaries that have been institutionally normalised.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/06/2019 17:34

Brilliant report on it by Jo, good comments too.

Datun · 14/06/2019 17:45

I am reeling about this, too.

This is the bloody NSPCC ffs.

The charity that every kid in the country does a sponsored walk for, a sponsored swim. The safest, most rational, most uncontroversial charity you can find.

I had badges, as a kid growing up, supporting them.

Some fucking bloke wanking in a fetish gimp suit in their toilets should be a really, really big deal.

It should.

R0wantrees · 14/06/2019 17:52

Watch this!

Lisa Muggeridge always had Safeguarding at the forfront of her analysis

Identifying male pattern abuse is required in Safeguarding.
Women will do this even when systems fail:

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=223&v=98-l4hRJtVM

Bear in mind that Lisa Muggeridge like Venice Allan, Posie Parker, Miranda Yardley & many other whiste blowers was targetted & silenced mostly on Twitter but also on other forums including this one.

Ht Fionne Orlander for sharing

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Outofinspiration · 14/06/2019 17:58

As an aside, I really do feel like I've led a sheltered life when I read about stuff like this and the likes of Jess Bradley and Co.

I literally cannot imagine in any universe dressing up in rubber to go to work, filming myself wanking and then uploading onto the WWW, stating I was at work. I can't imagine anyone I know, or have ever worked with, doing this. I can't imagine this being a 'thing' at any workplace. And being so open about it? I just can't believe it goes on, anywhere!

Datun · 14/06/2019 18:09

Outofinspiration

I'm pretty certain it's the Internet for you.

The very few people who used to do this, can now find absolutely everybody else who does. All of them. Every last man jack of them. It gives them a sense of normality.

And everyone else who is a bit dodgy will support it. And they in turn will find everyone else like them.

Finding your tribe normalises just about everything.

MinesaBottle · 14/06/2019 18:12

With the few people I’ve known or known of who have some kind of kink or fetish, it seems to take over their entire lives. Everything else comes second. That plus normalizing via the internet makes for a potent combination Sad

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/06/2019 18:17

One wonders what the fetishists will do next once their fetish is totally normalised. Surely the taboo nature of it is part of the thrill?

RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 18:23

Don't ask that question...

VickyEadie · 14/06/2019 18:28

One wonders what the fetishists will do next once their fetish is totally normalised. Surely the taboo nature of it is part of the thrill?

My partner and I were discussing this earlier today, connected with the news that Canada has apparently decided to decriminalise most aspects of bestiality ("as long as it doesn't involve penetration").

It's a systematic, bit by bit rolling back of boundaries to enable (mostly) men to enact their sexuality whenever, wherever and however they want to do it.

The world is being gaslighted.

RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 18:31

with the news that Canada has apparently decided to decriminalise most aspects of bestiality

Uh what!
Why would you do this?
For what purpose?

Melroses · 14/06/2019 18:33

My partner and I were discussing this earlier today, connected with the news that Canada has apparently decided to decriminalise most aspects of bestiality ("as long as it doesn't involve penetration")

Please don't tell me what 'most aspect of bestiality' are. I don't think I want ever to know.

Datun · 14/06/2019 18:33

with the news that Canada has apparently decided to decriminalise most aspects of bestiality

Right, that's it. I'm off to Shady Pines.

For those of you who remember it, I'll leave your name at the door...

littlbrowndog · 14/06/2019 18:35

Don’t go to Canada datun especially if you are any sort of animal or waxer

OldCrone · 14/06/2019 18:36

with the news that Canada has apparently decided to decriminalise most aspects of bestiality

They did this 3 years ago apparently.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bestiality-legal-canada-supreme-court-a7073196.html

RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 18:36

For those of you who remember it, I'll leave your name at the door...

Don't remember it. This is, however, what the internet is good for... Researching.

Datun · 14/06/2019 18:40

Shady Pines is the home for retired gentlefolk that my children threatened me with whenever they got the arsehole. I'm calling it mum, I am.

I occasionally found the idea most appealing.

Last time I heard, it was full of feminists. One was working on a particularly good yeast, another one was taking care of the illegal still. We had scrabble nights, bridge and poker.

It's not in Canada. I think it's near the Blue Stocking public house. They share the same candle supplier.

The illuminated front window of both establishments is very comforting for weary travellers.