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Owen Jones Twitter feed

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christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 10:46

Lil' OJ is being demolished as he tries to defend Bergdorf etc

Look now if you're interested as it will no doubt be deleted soon.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1138809431792263169

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OvaHere · 13/06/2019 17:48

Who is trying to get him fired?

I don't want him fired. How would we amuse ourselves then? Grin

IcedPurple · 13/06/2019 17:48

No doubt the comments will be full of dismissive remarks about women and mums

Some are, but some are a lot more sensible.

The man (child) is nuts.

littlbrowndog · 13/06/2019 17:49

Cesspit of transphobia 😂
Jeez hesoff on one now

Outofinspiration · 13/06/2019 17:49

Yes, the misogyny about Mumsnet has already started on that thread. Nice look Owen, not that you give a fuck.

Hopefully it will direct more people over here to have a look, so for the lurkers:

Owen Jones is totally clueless about safeguarding and given this fact really shouldn't be giving his opinion on who is and isn't suitable to work with the NSPCC

sackrifice · 13/06/2019 17:52

Little Owen Jones must have broken some sort of land speed record racing to MB to get an interview.

Made me laugh.

And he hasn't heard of the Mumsnet Effect yet has he?

Similar to the Streisand Effect but with knobs on.

IcedPurple · 13/06/2019 17:52

From the comments:

"we've learned from history that there's no point in engaging with crypto-fascists and fascist-adjacent people. when they want to exterminate you, there IS no debating. if they use terf language and have terf ideas, they're terfs, it's not rocket science."

Nuts I tell ya. Nuts.

CraftyWoman · 13/06/2019 17:55

Hi Owen, we know you hate Mumsnet because you have no way of shutting women up, you misogynist.

It is deeply homophobic to suggest that it is completely normal for gay men to wear fetish gear to work, knock one out in the bogs, film it and put that film on porn sites. It just adds to the erroneous idea that some actual homophobes have that gay men are sexually incontinent and perverts. It's those attitudes that get gay men beaten up, not genuine concerns for safeguarding of children.

FloralBunting · 13/06/2019 17:56

I just can't. The man is ridiculous.

Doyoumind · 13/06/2019 17:56

I don't even get the point of the screenshots he's posted.

He is someone who needs to take some time out. His days must be filled with stress and hatred thinking the world is against him. I don't give a shiny shit if he's gay. Who he or anyone sleeps with is not interesting to me tbh.

I don't like him because he's a dick and I know many people - gay, trans or straight - would agree.

christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 18:02

Owen, tbh the first thing I thought when I read your tweet was that it's incredibly homophobic of you to refer to this person's sexuality at all.

The fact that this individual is gay is completely irrelevant to his conduct at work in a children's charity and the fact that he chose to upload this to social media.

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sackrifice · 13/06/2019 18:05

I think instead of slagging people off he should come over, sign up and explain in great detail how:
a - men can change into women, what happens exactly and at what point this change occurs
b - it is homophobic to point out that not all gay men wank at work, video it and put it on their linked in biogs and to do so is a safeguarding risk.

As he seems intent on telling us that we are all such transphobes and homophobes, come and explain it to us. I'd really like to know.

Doyoumind · 13/06/2019 18:06

Webchat?

WizbetisaNizbet · 13/06/2019 18:08

He won't though @sackrifice. He knows he would be eaten alive. Much safer to pontificate from his echo chamber.

Outofinspiration · 13/06/2019 18:08

Yes, come over Owen and we can talk about it like grown ups.

DuMondeB · 13/06/2019 18:10

Hi Owen!

Yes, some of us ‘terves’ are (or at least, were) on the left.

I personally helped organise one of your ‘Unseat’ events.

Since then though, I have become increasingly aware of how little respect men on the left have for women, and as someone who grew up on a council estate and ‘worked’ in the sex ‘industry’, I’m thoroughly sick of middle class men telling me that prostitution is a choice, and really no different to any other McJob.

Then Munroe Bergdorf told women they shouldn’t talk about reproductive rights because it wasn’t inclusive and Cancer Research called me a cervix-haver and The Guardian called me a menstruator and here I am, on Mumsnet.
Because it’s full of women who are sick and tired of being told we can’t have boundaries, or equal political representation, and that penises are a female sex organ.

Go fuck yourself, mate.

Goosefoot · 13/06/2019 18:10

Has he even addressed the video? I don't know anyone who would defend that. Surely everyone knows that they would be fired from that in any job?

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 13/06/2019 18:12
JackyHolyoake · 13/06/2019 18:12

As far as Mr Jones seems to be concerned "transphobia" means a disbelief that humans can change sex.

In which case, UK law is transphobic, because UK law is explicit .. humans cannot change sex.

And, since I do not believe that humans can change sex, I am happy to be described as "transphobic" in that context.

Outofinspiration · 13/06/2019 18:13

No of course he hasn't addressed the video. And I'm sure he has no plans to either.

SirVixofVixHall · 13/06/2019 18:15

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LangCleg · 13/06/2019 18:16

Women talking about the safeguarding of children, with knowledge of the statutory required procedures = cesspit.

I'll just leave it at that, eh, Owen?

Lordamighty · 13/06/2019 18:16

Well done Owen Jones for trying to make concerns about the safeguarding of children all about you. 👏

WizbetisaNizbet · 13/06/2019 18:18

It would also mean he would have to speak to women, the majority of whom -shock, horror, don't agree with him- without resorting to calling us bigots, transphobes and t**fs. You know actually have to listen to our views. Instead of dismissing them out of hand.

Outofinspiration · 13/06/2019 18:19

Women talking about the safeguarding of children, with knowledge of the statutory required procedures = cesspit.

Yes, it says a lot doesn't it.

JackyHolyoake · 13/06/2019 18:19

DuMondeB Brava! Wine

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