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christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 10:46

Lil' OJ is being demolished as he tries to defend Bergdorf etc

Look now if you're interested as it will no doubt be deleted soon.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1138809431792263169

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Melroses · 13/06/2019 12:55

It does matter that he does not understand appropriate workplace sexual boundaries and is employed by a child protection charity that views attention being drawn to the lack of appropriate workplace boundaries in its workplace as bullying

Yes, this ^

LangCleg · 13/06/2019 13:04

It doesn't matter if he is personally harmful to kids or not.

Sorry. Very badly phrased. Should read:

It doesn't matter that he is most likely not personally harmful to kids.

Doyoumind · 13/06/2019 13:04

LangCleg I wasn't defending him. I totally agree. My point was that OJ has made his life harder rather than helping.

OJ has interviewed MB and just put on Guardian website and Twitter

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 13/06/2019 13:04

Obviously he's pretty disgusting for the way he wanked at work but I doubt he's harmful to anyone.

In one of his porn videos/pictures he mentions it takes place in the Nspcc offices. I wonder if anyone enjoyed it more knowing that?

OvaHere · 13/06/2019 13:05

This has just appeared in under the NSPCC tag. A few unwitting orgs are caught unaware of the current shitstorm.

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DanaPhoenix · 13/06/2019 13:05

Justifying this guys behaviour on the grounds he's gay

This so much. It really does read like men have no self control of their sexual actions. I mean this is a grown man, yes? Not a young male in the throes of puberty mortified by an ill timed random erection.

But hey ho gender neutral (mixed sex) toilets are not a problem. We are all just pearl clutching bigots for objecting amirite? C'mon ladies we all know masturbation at work is de rigeur these days. Who hasn't dry humped the photocopier when feeling a bit horny?

FFS the gaslighting is off the charts.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 13/06/2019 13:08

I am getting mixed messages from some: it's perfectly normal to wank in work toilets, and gender neutral toilets are safe - it's not as if anyone is doing anything sexual there.

DanaPhoenix · 13/06/2019 13:13

Hey Zutt to avoid any confusion my post was biting sarcasm to mask my incandescent rage.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 13/06/2019 13:18

DanaPhoenix. I wasn't having a go at you. Sorry if it seemed that way.

I'm slow, it took me longer to type my two lines then it took you to type your post.

nauticant · 13/06/2019 13:22

This is a national, reputable newspaper - where is the editorial control?

It makes you wonder who occupies the Celebrity & Talent Officer role, or equivalent, at The Guardian.

christinarossetti19 · 13/06/2019 13:22

"In one of his porn videos/pictures he mentions it takes place in the Nspcc offices. I wonder if anyone enjoyed it more knowing that?"

Exactly, Zutt. That made me feel physically sick.

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littlbrowndog · 13/06/2019 13:22

Yeah he went dressed in his fetish clothes as was exciyin* for him

To his work. In the nspcc.

🤔

DanaPhoenix · 13/06/2019 13:25

All good Zutt no offence was taken. I just thought it best to clarify just in case.

Goosefoot · 13/06/2019 13:27

I feel like the older I get, the more I think it's just a lot better when people were expected to keep their sex lives private and there weren't articles about it in magazines or tv or anything else.

This concept that it's better to have it all out in the open doesn't seem to have worked out so well.

FreeFreesia · 13/06/2019 13:40

Ovahere Blimey oblivious. Someone tell them their timing is off!

WrathofGRAkIop · 13/06/2019 13:46

Goosefoot
No such thing as keeping it private these days.

On a previous thread there was a quote that went something like:

"As the queers and liberals walked through the door, they left it open for the perverts to sneak in behind, unnoticed".

youkiddingme · 13/06/2019 13:57

I'm with you goosefoot - not because there is anything shameful about adult consensual sex but because I don't want it ramming down my throat left right and centre.
There's nothing shameful about taking a dump but I'm not going to start shoving my turds under people's noses.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/06/2019 14:04

I tried, honestly I did.

But I felt like a proper voyeur watching this creepy love in and couldn't stomach the outright lies and propaganda either:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2019/jun/13/owen-jones-meets-munroe-bergdorf-its-like-people-have-free-rein-to-harass-the-trans-community

TheInebriati · 13/06/2019 14:06

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Doyoumind · 13/06/2019 14:07

I didn't get past the first few seconds of the video. I'm not interested. It's a total misrepresentation to ignore the real reason MB got binned. It's shit 'journalism'.

HorsewithnoHoldsBarred · 13/06/2019 14:07

Does he still work for the charity?

Can't believe this isn't headline stuff coming, as it does, in the week that Oxfam having their arse handed to them. Why aren't journalists crawling all over it?

Are all charities stuffed with creeps and weirdos?

And come on, doing that in the toilet at work and then explicitly mentioning the children's charity is bloody creepy and well weird, non?

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DanaPhoenix · 13/06/2019 14:12

I agree goosefoot there have been important advances in the acknowledgement of lesbian/homosexual/bisexual relationships. That's great and how it should be. I've partied in gay clubs in my younger days, same sex couples making out, arseless chaps, leather gear, transvestites it's all a bit meh to me.

Some images recent pride parades are concerning, especially the ones involving children. Let me first clarify that children should always feel loved by their parents and never feel ashamed. I understand that part of that is children being able to celebrate and acknowledge their parents love. Unfortunately I find myself increasingly uncomfortable with the pride parades of late because it is so highly sexualised it is inappropriate to children.
There was a recent clip I saw on the internet of a young boy (10 or under) dancing and twerking. What caught my eye was the surrounding crowd. Partly into his dance a person who I could probably best describe as a cross between Rainbow Brite and Chucky started undulating towards the boy. A female bystander put her arm out to stop his progress. She knew. She knew instinctively. It's sad that what should be a celebration has become marred by fetishists.

I'm just going to say it. People can accuse me of kink shaming. Whatever. Wear your leather, get spanked, choked, rape fantasies, keep it in the privacy of your home, between consenting adults and be sure to use your safe word. Never in front of kids. That goes for both heterosexual and gays. I'm going to stop here because there are other proclivities that crept under the kink banner that I haven't mentioned. Things that if anyone has listened or read anything to do with true crime know can lead to a very dark path.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 13/06/2019 14:19

But I felt like a proper voyeur watching this creepy love in and couldn't stomach the outright lies and propaganda either:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2019/jun/13/owen-jones-meets-munroe-bergdorf-its-like-people-have-free-rein-to-harass-the-trans-community

Do neither of them read the feedback they are recieving on twitter? Do they just throw their opinions out but never listen to what other people are saying?

Goosefoot · 13/06/2019 14:31

I am really curious as to whether OJ doesn't get it, or somehwo shuts out the facts, or just thinks its better to ignore things that don't help his narrative, or what.

Because I really think even the vast majority of men know this is not on. I think even men who might think it is ok to wank in toilets at work know that if they film it and put it on the internet, they are idiots who will get fired.