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Prostasia Foundation - Child protection or dismantling Safeguarding?

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JustAnotherWoman · 10/06/2019 13:39

Credit to Agilelass for flagging these people in the Dr Em Unicorns thread, I thought they warranted a thread of their own.

prostasia.org

They claim to be concerned about child protection but a look at what they are promoting and saying sounds to me far more like they are trying to dismantle safeguarding measures by saying they don't work.

They have/had a campaign in support of child sex dolls [anger]

Should we be worried about them? Anyone know anything more about the key players?

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 13:50

I wasn't quite sure where to put this tweet but seems relevant here:

twitter.com/logicalmarcus/status/1140172269269991425?s=21

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plattercake · 16/06/2019 16:48

A million times NO. This is wrong in so many serious ways. Its sick

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2BthatUnnoticed · 16/06/2019 16:57

It looks like a convicted sex offender is one of their writers.. and that a NSPCC employee is among their followers.

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OrchidInTheSun · 16/06/2019 18:12

Yes discussed further down in the thread. Guy Hamilton Smith

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 18:27

Desmond thread; not for the faint hearted.

Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons] http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3613722-Convicted-paedophile-lusts-over-Desmond-the-amazing-one-trigger-warning-for-obvious-reasons

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KettlePolly · 16/06/2019 18:36

That article on ageplay was nauseating. It's like my old colleague airly going on about his bloody FetLife "munches" - the kink bubble is a lovely place but it's easy to think because you know lots of other people are like you that everyone else finds it completely fine and want to hear about it and hey yeah why SHOULDN'T you talk about it! And ageplay is so inherently dodgy you'd have to be thick to admit you do it.

That charity is at best misguided and at worst opening up a seriously colossal door for those who'd seek to abuse.

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Gingerkittykat · 16/06/2019 19:04

Please explain a world where kinky, sex and trans-queer have ended up in the same sentence as child protection

A tweet taken from Katie Hopkins linked from their Twitter, probably the only thing the woman has said I have agreed with.

The one thing I saw on their site I agreed with is not criminalising young people who send sexting images of themselves, not the right way to deal with this issue.

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youkiddingme · 16/06/2019 19:30

reading the comments on your twitter post 2BthatUnnoticed led me to this. What the hell is this?

www.ipce.info/

Ipce is a forum for people who are engaged in scholarly discussion about the understanding and emancipation of mutual relationships between children or adolescents and adults.

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nevernotstruggling · 16/06/2019 19:37

Why would you need to describe a cp .org as sex positive that's v fuct up. No one describes the nspcc as sex negative??? Wtaf???

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nevernotstruggling · 16/06/2019 19:44

Jameela drank the cool aid a long time ago I ditched her on sm

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BertrandRussell · 16/06/2019 21:47

Yes- she was grovellingly apologetic and deleted a tweet about women having surgery in the pursuit of beauty after being educated that it was transphobic.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 17/06/2019 00:09

Oh it wasn’t my own Twitter post, I should have clarified, I just saw it.

IPCE = PIE 2. That’s my conclusion. I wonder if any journalist is brave enough to take it on?

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youkiddingme · 17/06/2019 14:55

Sorry that was my post that was badly worded 2Bthatunnoticed - I meant the twitter post you shared above.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 18/06/2019 00:15

All good Smile

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 22/06/2019 20:07

Aaaaand now they're trying to blackmail Sarah Phillimore to stop digging into their organisation.

twitter.com/SVPhillimore/status/1142017609124208640

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Spero · 22/06/2019 21:02

They are an appalling bunch. The mask slipped pretty quickly. They insinuated themselves into a discussion I was having on Twitter about the NSPCC and invited people to switch their direct debits to them.

I had never heard of them before but after some conversation I wasn't very reassured. Another Twitter user posted a mugshot of one of their members which showed he has been arrested in 2012 for sexual contact with a child under 13.

A number of us asked the main Prostasia account what on earth was going on; we were all blocked.

Shortly after that I received an email, which I posed in full on Twitter as I saw it as a genuine attempt to blackmail me and the only way to deal with this is publicise it.

The Sunday Mirror are hopefully running a piece on the NSPCC tonight/tomorrow and I briefly ran the Prostasia stuff past the reporter who contacted me - he sounded interested and I hope will get back to me.

Again, another issue that needs a LOT more publicity.

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 22/06/2019 21:30

Why is this group allowed on twitter?

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Spero · 22/06/2019 21:34

Just found another email from Jeremy!
twitter.com/SVPhillimore/status/1142529475059572736

Its very revealing. Read the bit about 'human rights of all'.

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 22/06/2019 22:15

The words "child", "sex", and "positive" need to never appear in the same sentence, ever. FUCK. OFF.

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Barracker · 22/06/2019 23:58

Pro
Stasia: means 'resurrection' in Greek.

Name may literally mean they are pro resurrecting something.

An organisation that was sleeping?
A movement that was alive, then killed off, that they want to resurrect?

Is this PIE resurrected and rebranded?

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Ineedacupofteadesperately · 23/06/2019 10:28

Bloody hell "conducting child sexual abuse prevention in a way that is sex positive"

News flash for Jeremy: virtually all the parents in the country are against "conducting child sexual abuse prevention in a way that is sex positive". We see you.

Also, doesn't know what doxxing is.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 03/07/2019 13:30

“Consensual kink and child protection??” This is so creepy. This site is about adults and their so-called “sexual rights.”

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2BthatUnnoticed · 03/07/2019 13:33

They want to protect children “from sexual harm.” Not from sex or kink... that might impinge on adults’ sexual freedoms, no? Confused

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FormerMediocreMale · 20/07/2019 23:30

This really is a resurrection of PIE - not good.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 21/07/2019 05:40

I know - I’m honestly at a loss at “consensual kink and child protection.” WTF?

Kinksters - whatever you do with consenting adults is fine but keep your kink right away from children! They cannot and do not consent to exposure to kink of any kind.

This organisation is seriously creepy.

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