James O’Brien - ‘I categorically wouldn’t fancy a woman with a penis' **title edited by MNHQ**

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Brave listener Juliet went on James’ show and talked about the cotton ceiling, the pressure on lesbians to give up their boundaries and the male violence that accompanies all of this.

During the discussion, James said he wouldn’t fancy a woman with a penis and thought it was unbelievable (though he believed her) that women would get shit for feeling the same.

Worth a listen here:

soundcloud.com/user-133591815/james-obrien-lbc-juliet

(courtesy of Jack Appleby mobile.twitter.com/jackappleby/status/1137033071222493184 )

Interestingly, James has yet to be inundated with accusations of being a terf, nazi or literal killer of trans people

Yes that's it isn't it. Lesbians don't exist, women also don't properly exist. And the patriarchal reversal in all of this is that one of the things transwomen are known for screeching is "we exist, get over it". Like their existence is up for debate We bloody well know they exist, that's never been part of the debate, we're just saying they're definitely not women that's all.
I have no idea what the difference is between a trans woman and a man and nobody has been able to explain it to me.

Caucho Hate it when everyone talks about the spectrum. Perhaps for some. And whilst I understand the concept and agree it exists
I beg your pardon?
You believe sex is a spectrum?
Or that sexuality is a spectrum?
many people are right at the furthest end of either and there is no ambiguity
sorry, but the the majority of people are either male or female and are attracted to either males or females both. There isn't a "spectrum".

"we exist, get over it". Like their existence is up for debate
YY
It's classic projection!
What they're really saying is "I don't believe women exist".

^ the majority of people are either male or female
Whoops I need to edit my own post there, I made a concession for people with a DSD there, with my use of "the majority of" but actually I have now rescinded that because even people with a DSD are all either male or female too. There is no spectrum.

James O'Brien is so utterly insufferable that he will probably go from uber-woke know-it-all sneering and belittling the gender-critical, into gender-critical know-it-all sneering and belittling TRAs without a moment of self-reflection that perhaps he does not know it all.

That could be a problem. If James O'Brien interviewed Flat Earthers in his smug bullying supercilious way I'd start to question the accepted theory about it being round and all that. If he does the same to TRAs he might do the impossible and make them appear sympathetic.

I meant sexuality spectrum. Not sex / gender spectrum. I don’t want to shout too loudly ‘I’m not gay and the straightest man ever’ as that usually gets interpreted as someone protesting too much (which can also be true occasionally).

But I can’t categorically state I don’t think of men in that way period. I’m not oblivious to whether a man is attractive or not and can recognise whether someone is considered handsome or not but just doesn’t do anything for me.

People often do perpetrate this spectrum though as if everyone has a bit of an inclination for the other side, which is not the case for everyone

Cauchy, could you explain what you mean my when you said "I do believe it's possible to game these people"

"These people " you are talking about are, specifically, het women who get targeted for "game", as if this game is going to alter who they fancy and get them into bed.
My point is that it cannot work, just like the cotton ceiling cannot work, because heterosexual women have a sexuality of their own and they decide who is fanciable or not. The men who created the cotton ceiling debacle truly did not realize women have their own sexuality because they're pornsick.

So "game" can only work if the man is somewhat attractive and fanciable to start with. But some men don't seem to realize this. They think if they work on their game they should be able to bed more women. It's a pornified, false, view of female sexuality. And it sounds to me that the men who believe that are also the same men who believe a prostitute is getting pleasure when they pay her.

Hey has anyone noticed the barrage of hate mail, accusations of transphobia, bigotry and terfdom, threats of suicide, death and rape threats that the transactivists have rained down on James O'Brien for saying something as transphobic as he did?

No, me neither.