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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harry the Owl and others launching high court battle

209 replies

Nephilim1964 · 12/05/2019 10:49

Link to story below

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7018915/Businessman-launches-landmark-High-Court-battle-overhaul-official-rules-hate-crimes.html#comments

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/05/2019 10:55

This is fantastic news

good work sir

one step at a time, that's how we bring this round

Nephilim1964 · 12/05/2019 10:59

Absolutely. There's a crowdfunder but I know I'm not allowed to post it here.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/05/2019 11:02

Bumping

SlipperyLizard · 12/05/2019 11:05

Great news, I’ll be donating to the crowdfunder as this will need a lot of money.

The police guidance really is Orwellian.

Nephilim1964 · 12/05/2019 11:11

I'm sharing it where I can. This is hugely important for everyone.

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Slaymill · 12/05/2019 11:32

Faircop sounds interesting.

GeordieGenes · 12/05/2019 11:34

Was this what Harry’s countdown was about?

Nephilim1964 · 12/05/2019 11:36

His and Rob's as far as I know

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OvaHere · 12/05/2019 11:37

Glad this is starting to get some traction. Will be following with interest.

Nephilim1964 · 12/05/2019 11:47

Thanks Lang

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RoyalCorgi · 12/05/2019 14:49

Well done, Sanchez and Joani. Apart from anything else, I'm glad to see the infamous tweet referred to correctly as a "poem" rather than a "limerick." Grin

MilletSentToForceIt · 12/05/2019 18:58

I’ve contributed. Fair Cop is a great name too. Thanks Harry.

Imnobody4 · 12/05/2019 19:04

Yes his campaign is well worth supporting
Challenging Thought Crime: HarryTheOwl v The College of Policing

littlecabbage · 04/06/2019 22:30

Bump - time is running out to reach the target.

MangoesAreMyFavourite · 04/06/2019 23:59

Original target is reached.

MereMinion · 05/06/2019 00:00

Fabulous! 🥳

ZebrasAreBras · 05/06/2019 00:31

This is very welcome news, I support Harry wholeheartedly - this needs challenging.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 05/06/2019 06:38

Brilliant.

2BoysandaCairn · 05/06/2019 07:42

I know lots of brilliant Humberside police officers and support staff, including both my sons who are volunteer cadets, who have spent hours working with local LGBT charities to them to report hate incidents and crimes. Plus local refugees and BAME groups. All thick Harry the owl is a prat.
But you throw all the above groups under a bus, so Harry and his anti muslim mates can say what they like.
He approves of Tommy Robinson. FGS.
ACC Young has explained why he was spoken too. I trust that honourable man before any twitter keyboard warrior.

Christ if you win, it will be back to
No blacks, Irish, Gays and dogs.
I despair.

JackyHolyoake · 05/06/2019 08:01

2BoysandaCairn

I think you may have misunderstood what Harry's legal case is about.

Harry is challenging the College of Policing on the grounds of infringement of Article 10 of the UK Human Rights Act 1998:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/42/schedule/1

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 05/06/2019 08:12

2BoysandaCairn
I trust that honourable man

The you'll agree Harry commited no crime, there was no victim and no justification for police to phone him.
As ACC young admitted himself.

ZebrasAreBras · 05/06/2019 10:53

All thick Harry the owl is a prat.

Yeah - people don't really like it when someone holds them to account.

You really think it's a valid use of your son's time to spend half an hour on the phone to people for "liking" limericks on Twitter?

Or ringing up Margaret Nelson, a retired humanist celebrant, about her blog on human skeletons?

I think it's an appalling waste of police time and resources.

littlbrowndog · 05/06/2019 11:02

I hope that the police anywhere are speaking to men’s groups and telling them not to sexually assault and murder women at the rate of 2 a week

Are there men’s groups and communities. ?

Manderleyagain · 05/06/2019 11:33

People on here and elsewhere who argue against supporting this law suit because they don't like Harry the Owl, are missing the point of the legal challenge.

I personally didn't like the poem and wouldn't have put it on my social media either. I am sure I would completely disagree with him about some things. He may be a complete prat for all I know. All those things are irrelevant.

I don't want to live in a society where people can be 'brought in for questioning', rung up by the police to check their thinking, or have the possibility of being accused of a 'non crime hate incident' for expressing their opinions, or sharing lawful material. It gives the police (the state) powers to harass people and dampens public discussion on public issues. It is gender identity today. What will it be in 10 years?

If lobby groups can frame a discussion about policy/the law (in fact any issue) as being against a group who are protected by hate speech laws, and sell that framing to the police, then they can shut down any public discussion of it.