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Police are criminalising opinions, say campaigners: The Times 11/05/2019

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/05/2019 20:14

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/police-are-criminalising-opinions-say-campaigners-2w6bskfdj

Glad Gilligan is covering this.

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CatMiaow · 12/05/2019 12:51

Hazza you are Harry? Can you ask glinner what is happening with the donations women gave for the last cause he promoted please. No offence, but he shouldn’t be asking for woman to donate while we don’t know what happened with our old donations.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 12:56

I think this is going directly to Harry for Harry's suit against the police based on the way he was treated and that it is in breach of the human rights act. It's not a general pot, so Graham has nothing to do with it.

Twunk · 12/05/2019 12:59

I will be contributing to the crowdfunder when we are paid (very expensive month!).

Helen is right - you cannot be immune from the consequences of what you say. What she is wrong about it is a) that there are actual real consequences to stating facts b) that those consequences include the police turning up at your door.

It’s fine while your opinion is “acceptable” to society, but a police state can be used against anyone.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/05/2019 13:01

CatMiaow It's great to see that you have moved from being a lurker to a poster.

Just a heads up that two threads about the Glinner fundraiser have already been deleted due to the wild speculation from some individuals. It's be a shame if this thread went the same way.

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HazzaTheOwl · 12/05/2019 13:11

NONE of the Crowd Justice money is coming to me. ALL of it is being handled by Crowd Justice and the solicitor.

None of us get access to a single penny. None of us can divert funds from its stated intent.

CatMiaow · 12/05/2019 13:17

I am not a lurker. @ItsAllgoingtobefine I have been on mumsnet a long time.

@ereshkigal The fair cop website and fundraiser was tweeted by glinner the same as the old one. His name is also on the website. When he ignores me tweets and others asking about the first lot of money. Kate Scarow has also tweeted that half the old money is going to someone else for a mattress not to her so I am being gaslighted when everyone keeps calling this speculation or ignoring it!!!

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/05/2019 13:23

CatMiaow If you want to talk about a particular other fundraiser please start a new thread to do it.

www.crowdjustice.com/how-it-works/ for anyone who may be interested in the working of the CrowdJustice platform. As others in the thread have previously stated money goes directly to the nominated legal firm (minus platform fees).

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SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 12/05/2019 13:23

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RussianSpamBot · 12/05/2019 13:36

Hello @HazzaTheOwl! Glad you're doing this.

HazzaTheOwl · 12/05/2019 13:40

Posie says she'll contribute a piece later on. We're not planning on leaving the same cases up indefinitely!

CatMiaow · 12/05/2019 13:40

I am asking about one of the organisers of this fundraiser bc he was also involved in another one which has become a huge mess. Don’t act like my concern is not justified.
No offence to Harry I have said that already.

Police are criminalising opinions, say campaigners: The Times 11/05/2019
Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 14:24

Posie says she'll contribute a piece later on. We're not planning on leaving the same cases up indefinitely!

Thanks Harry, appreciate the response.

LangCleg · 12/05/2019 14:53

I am asking about one of the organisers of this fundraiser bc he was also involved in another one which has become a huge mess. Don’t act like my concern is not justified.

FGS - nobody is saying your concern is not justified. They're saying you'll get this whole thread taken down - like the other two - if you carry on derailing to a different topic. You're not helping anyone, including yourself and anyone else wanting more info on the other fund.

Just stop it.

LangCleg · 12/05/2019 14:54

More than 5,600 nice things!

Genderfreelass · 12/05/2019 15:32

Glad Harry is getting lots of nice things 😊

Genderfreelass · 12/05/2019 15:34

Good question Scottish doll, I assumed it would but maybe not. Anyone know whether it covers Scotland?

CatMiaow · 12/05/2019 15:48

How do I find out about the other fund then @LangCleg? Everyone ignores it and gfm haven’t responded. I was told about the first fundraiser on here by some of the same people now encouraging donating to this next one. Which does sound like it is better run but someone ignoring questions about the old one is heavily involved!!! Whenever I ask I get told that everyone knew the old one had red flags. Well I didn’t and that makes me stupid but I’m not going to be thick about it again!!! I feel like I am going insane and it’s not right. I gave my birthday money which I badly needed for a hair cut because I felt so sorry for Kate. I do not want other mumsnetters caught out the same way. The same person involved in both makes it the same subject not a derailing like you say.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 15:52

This isn't relevant to this thread. It's a totally different crowdfund on a different platform.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 12/05/2019 15:59

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CatMiaow · 12/05/2019 16:01

Different fund in different platform supported and promoted by the same individual!!! Who I did not want to name and only did so as someone else named them. I am sorry for that. But Harry came on here and if he doesn’t know that he is doing this with someone who is ignoring many questions about what is happening to our money donated to the first fund then he should!!!

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 16:09

Glinner promotes a lot of GC causes. This one is not a general fund. It's specifically for Harry's case against the police. Glinner is involved with the Faircop campaign group, which is not the same thing. It's not his crowdfund.

LangCleg · 12/05/2019 16:18

I want to talk about this litigation and campaign.

I sympathise that there have been problems with a different crowdfunder but I'm going to be so fucking arsed off if constant harking on it - when two threads have already been deleted - means I can't.

Fucking stop it.

Amalfimamma · 12/05/2019 16:45

I haven't read the full thread but

1 funds are NOT going to glinner
2 glinner will have NO say over funds
3 funds will be transferred directly to legal rep as per crowd justice FOR
4 glinner, with others, gave their story they are not the organisers nor treasurers
5 I would trust Harry with my life. I don't trust my husband nor indeed myself with it
6 we are not allowed to discuss the previous fund on here but I'm sure if you ask glinner, or Ella, or better still Debbie on Twitter they'll fill you in .

ThePurportedDoctoress · 12/05/2019 16:50

Credit where it’s due. It was my wife who turned my gaze toward this nonsense, reading me snippets about women being silenced in favour of privileged men colonising their spaces. ‘Mark my words,’ she’d warn, grabbing my attention during the Half Time ads. ‘This is the latest form of misogyny. No good will come of it.’

Good work, Mrs Owl. I've done the thing.