Eddy Izzard says women should be forced to share bathrooms with men

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFs7RfJZEIM

I can’t believe what I’ve just watched. Eddie Izzard is on Joe Rogan saying ALL bathrooms should be gender neutral and completely dismissed the concerns women have that Joe brought up. He dismissed it as “people always complain when there’s change”

The whole thing is so selfish and entitled.

I see the word "terf" here all the time, I didn't realise it was banned, people even have it in their usernames.

Fwiw, I don't want unisex toilets or to share with men either. But it's virtually illegal to say that elsewhere where everyone else is falling over themselves to accommodate new gender idealogues. I'm trying to find strong responses to the arguments I've been faced with, and it's actually a bit of a struggle, I haven't really.

Again, there have been enough abuse victims and people of faith prepared to share with men who have come forward in other online spaces to make it a moot point, all you get is 'we can, so if someone else can't it's not because of faith/abuse it's because transphobia'

I see the word "terf" here all the time no, you don't. It's banned, see the moderator notes on the forum header. It does not affect user names.

For evidence trying to find strong responses to the arguments see OtepotiLilliane42 post above yours. I think it pretty much covers it.

I'm trying to find strong responses to the arguments I've been faced with, and it's actually a bit of a struggle, I haven't really.

Here we tend to think our consent is enough.

Again, there have been enough abuse victims and people of faith prepared to share with men who have come forward in other online spaces to make it a moot point, all you get is 'we can, so if someone else can't it's not because of faith/abuse it's because transphobia

Where have you been to say that peaches? It's just not true in real life and it's awful that you even say that. Try living and working with, having friends from Muslim and other faith communities and you will know that sex segregation is a massive issue. It's complicated and difficult but I am repeatedly aghast at those who have so little respect for differences that they insist that this white / woke / tone deaf ideology is prioritised over all other groups. Shame on you.

Again, there have been enough abuse victims and people of faith prepared to share with men who have come forward in other online spaces to make it a moot point

You have no idea who anyone is online. They could be a dog.

That's nice genuinely, but not reflective of the world we live in. Especially a world where the majority of women appear to see no problem with this.

Not sure what your point is.

Shame on me? For what exactly?

I see the word "terf" here all the time no, you don't.

It's not banned per se, but calling people a terf is, because it's a commonly used as a term of abuse for women.

Similarly you can discuss the term paki, but don't expect to get away with directing it towards groups or individuals. (Note I am not saying these words are equally offensive).

Peaches described herself as a terf, which is unlikely to get pulled.

Especially a world where the majority of women appear to see no problem with this

Don't be silly. A hundred percent of the women on here disagree with you.

lookatallthepeaches

If you think everyone believes your 'I'm just trying to find a counter argument, because everyone out there disagrees with you', you're very much mistaken.

No one buys it.

I agree with don

Terf isnt banned...calling someone else a terf is

peaches, what exactly are you arguing for here? You've said that you're gender critical, ok, so why are you dismissing women having a very firm line on Eddie wandering in to the Ladies for his validation power kick? Are you suggesting every toilet facility be redesigned? Because that particular conversation is a trip down capitulation lane, you do know that, right? The only reason we would be doing it is because some blokes decided we shouldn't have single sex facilities anymore.

Actually not quite, maybe 99%

There are other places where 99% of women disagree. Both places are echo chambers.

He's lost his fucking mind! Very disappointing. Actually it hurts very much when the so called "good guys" turn out to be first class misogynists

Unfortunately that's how I'm feeling towards many gay men ( generally speaking) these days. I don't want to hear about wonderful and liberating 'camp' and' drag' is ( Radio 4 this morning). That so many gay men have jumped unquestioningly onto the trans bandwagon has left me feeling very sore, and has made me look back and reflect on my relationships with gay men, and see more clearly all that made me, and continues to make me feel uncomfortable about gay male culture.

I too liked Eddie Izzard and seriously wonder what has happened to him. Seems he's been swept up into the madness because it flatters his cross dressing autogynephilic side.

Now that being a gay man is so mainstream and, largely, socially acceptable - many men have abandoned their feelings of friendship and camaraderie with women, in favour of enjoying and exploiting their masculine privilege.

Both places are echo chambers.

Nope. There is no blocking, you can't stop people, anyone post on here. It's not an echo chamber. And the site has 12 million unique users per month.

You'll have to try again.

floral

From what ive seen some of the more vocal online posters would be incredibly unhappy if the toilets were all individual gender neutral everyone in together off a corridor toilets

They want to be in the one marked women...including eddie cos who else is he going to have a chat with, while shitting

Well no, there are other good reasons, I have a son, who got to an age where he no longer wanted to come into the ladies, but I was anxious with him going into the mens alone. cleaner more private toilets for all benefit everyone. There other other reasons other than capitulation. My daughter is at an age where she's frightened to lock the door so I hold it closed with my foot so she can see me, sometimes I'm minding friends children and they want the same, I don't have 3 feet and I certainly would be more wary with men around. Just as I'm sure most decent men would be uncomfortable themselves. I GET it, I do.

I'm not making any argument here, I'm presenting the arguments that I was met with in the hope I can get the unarguable evidence required to persuade other women.

There are other places where 99% of women disagree.

Really? Even tho'

Christ on a bike. l'm banned from virtually ever other corner of the Internet for being too much of a terf

A cynic may read this and conclude that you just hate males, trans or otherwise

It is actually the other way around. Men's contempt for women is so blatant. Is it any wonder people feel so upset and angry.

Oh come on...

This is. There is no blocking but there's a distinct culture, I've been jumped on and assumed to be a TRA for asking simple questions. That deters people less thick skinned than myself from speaking up.

I'm not here to argue.

I'm on your side.

I'm trying to gather the information I need to persuade others.

Especially a world where the majority of women appear to see no problem with this

I'm not sure which world you inhabit, butI've been out on the streets, into supermarkets and other public spaces to ask women about this, due to severe lack of public awareness, and the vast majority of women are not happy nor comfortable with the idea at all.

Yep places where saying maybe you don't want to share with guys is worse than saluting Hitler. Because that's the culture there.

Besides, people have been banned from here