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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cross dress males to be allowed in women only gym sessions in Glasgow

273 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 22/04/2019 08:56

Mentioned before, I know, but quite a punchy headline today
www.heraldscotland.com/news/17588777.cross-dress-males-to-be-allowed-in-women-only-gym-sessions-in-glasgow/?ref=twtrec

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 17:37

Is it just glasgow? My sister lives on the other side and would be most pissed off if she knew this was the case over in Edinburgh

ScrimshawTheSecond · 22/04/2019 18:21

Glasgow Live is part of Glsgow City Council. As far as I know this has no bearing on Edinburgh.

theOtherPamAyres · 22/04/2019 18:22

Dear Glasgow,

Please check your understanding of the term "cross dressing man". (Hint: It's to do with male sexual arousal, exhibitionsim and validation).

Then consult female users about sharing spaces with walking erections.

Thank you.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/04/2019 18:35

Ffs ladies here we go again..... and if we don’t like it we need educating / prosecuting to facilitate our erasure! Interesting take on the EA.

youllhavehadyourtea · 22/04/2019 18:35

Glasgow Life is an ALO of the city council.

youllhavehadyourtea · 22/04/2019 18:42

(Fekko despite my user name, I'm from the same side as yourself. )

Erythronium · 22/04/2019 18:43

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maslinpan · 22/04/2019 18:45

I have read the article again, and I am still completely baffled that they "understand" that some women may complain, yet they will not actually pay any attention to this. What exactly do they "understand" - that most women will be made furious by this proposal?

youllhavehadyourtea · 22/04/2019 18:48

how do you change usernames and then switch back?

Ive never worked out how to do it and always ending up losing my name for good.

Can someone help?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 19:14

I was just wondering if all of Scotland had lost its bloody mind! I’m originally from Glasgow and can’t even begin to think how the hell this happened.

Jesus you turn your back for 30 years and this is what happens...

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 19:15

Peeping Tom’s charter then. I thought that was a crime?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 19:16

Went to google a legal directory...

Being a peeping Tom is treated as a crime based on sexual deviancy, and a victim may sue a peeping Tom for invasion of privacy.

RedToothBrush · 22/04/2019 19:56

www.scotsman.com/row-after-cross-dressing-men-allowed-to-use-female-changing-rooms-in-scotland-1-4912990
Row after cross-dressing men allowed to use female changing rooms in Scotland

Tunnockswafer · 22/04/2019 20:03

youllhavehadyourtea just go to where you would type in a new name, and instead type in your old name. And then your password. I don’t know any way to do it other than that.

youllhavehadyourtea · 22/04/2019 20:19

thanks Tunnocks - I thought it was a dropdown menu and it wouldn't let me select. Got it now :)

RJnomore1 · 22/04/2019 20:25

This is the main news story on the daily record website tonight

RedToothBrush · 22/04/2019 20:35

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/row-erupts-cross-dressing-men-14444999

Check out the image they have next to Glasgow Life logo with strapline 'get the most out of' [Glasgow Life]

It's to the point...

Leavesofgrass · 22/04/2019 20:42

So angry about this. Does anyone know if there is petition up and running yet?

TimeLady · 22/04/2019 20:45

Interesting choice of photo used for the Daily Record story

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/row-erupts-cross-dressing-men-14444999

TimeLady · 22/04/2019 20:46

Ha, Red cross-post.

pombear · 22/04/2019 20:52

If it hasn't been done already in this thread, is it that time again for me to plonk down a link to Tara Hewitt's educational youtube film as to the definition of 'trans' from an official 'educator'?

4.28 onwards
there's two types of cross-dressing, you've got people that fetishisticly cross dress, so they wear clothing to get a sexual desire out of that clothing of that opposite gender.

Erm, it's generally asociated with men wearing women's underwear, erm and women's clothing. I don't know many women that wear boxer sorts and find that sexually arousing...but if you do, that's cool, because we're all very diverse.and we have diverse sexual appetites as well... [silence in the room of mainly female health care professionals! On, and Tara never expands on the second type of cross-dresser who isn't doing it for sexual purposes!]

one of the things I find qute challenging is when people stigmatise different identities and make judgements about them because of where they are,, and as long as people, someone is happy and living their lives and the way they want to, and expressing themselves, why should anyone make a judgement about that?

Transvestites, it's quite an older term but is still used about some people to talk about themselves. It generally means someone who's it's more than just clothing, it's going out and expressing themselves, in a way it's a social element, and intereacting in a different gender type to themselves, normally they may identify as male but at a weekend, or part time, might like to go out be viewed as Sarah or be viewed in a female identity.

They don't view themselves as that, it's a just an expression of part of who they are, rather than their whole identity, and often people use different language to talk about that now, but it's a historic word you might hear in use.

So that bloke (and I'm staying within guidelines here, as Tara has said directly that for cross-dressers and transvestites, their female identity isn't their whole identity) who likes to dress in women's clothes for sexual purposes, but for whom it's a little bit more than just the clothes, because it's about doing so in a social element, who don't view themselves as that [female], but it's just a part of who they are.

Gets a free pass from Glasgow Life to validate their fetish and social desire to identify as a woman occasionally.

In all women's spaces. Cos 'trans'.

Right-oh.

Victoriapestis01 · 22/04/2019 20:55

vicky I’ve had a look for your thread, the one you mention, but can’t find it. Could you post a link to it? It sounds really interesting.

TimeLady · 22/04/2019 20:58

TBH, I welcome these stories as they are going to make the general public wake up all the faster to what's going on beneath the radar. The press are becoming more confident in calling this out - I'd expect this story to be picked up by the Daily Mail by tomorrow.

Popchyk · 22/04/2019 21:05

Christ, that Daily Record article. With its associated images.

Pulling zero punches.

It also links to a story about an Edinburgh University gym boss accused of 'suggesting female client should be raped' in WhatsApp chat.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-university-gym-boss-accused-14444721

pombear · 22/04/2019 21:07

Forgive my shit spelling tonight - long weekend, too relaxed!

But tl:dr from my last post is that a trans educator themselves is telling you all, on film, that men with a fetish for dressing in women's underwear is included in the 'trans umbrella' and therefore deserves special consideration.

Which seems to have translated directly into Scottish guidance to: let them in, little pig, let them in!

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