Morgane Oger calls out JY

[Nephilim1964]

Never in a million years did I think I'd see this....

'Preying on children makes you a predator regardless of who you are'

'I wish it wasn’t a transgender person or someone saying they are part of the LGBTQ+ community who has been doing what Jessica Yaniv has reportedly been doing for years – as far back as 2013'

morganeoger.ca/2019/04/19/preying-on-children-makes-you-a-predator-regardless-of-who-you-are/

Oh, has Oger only just noticed? Bit slow on the uptake if that's the case.

It's only taken 9 years.

Sorry - that should be 6 years since Oger noticed, but no doubt has been going on for much longer.

People like Oger should try listening to feminists more.

The TRA movement is going to have to distance itself from the predators eventually. He's just reading the room.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Completely missing point that Yaniv is XY and the people Yaniv targeted are XX. What are the appropriate and correct nouns here to name exactly what is going on?

And yet it's the LGBT community that are the victims in all this, apparently.

Those outside that sphere that flagged the behaviour of JY were only doing it because they were transphobic. Whatfuckingever.

Hmm - I thought Oger and Yaniv were buddies?

The bit at the end made me roll my eyes, when Oger says instead of demonising the whole community, reach out to those in power etc.

Considering the things that Morgane's said and done with regards to their treatment of women, it's a bit rich. Still glad they've called out JY though, even if it has taken them so long.

Hmmm. Let's think about this.
This person spends years trying to take down a Rape Crisis Centre. Then alleges surprise that women and girls don't seek this person out to report predatory behaviour...

He's just reading the room.

Precisely. Oger doesn’t give a flying fuck about the actions and abuse carried out by JY. It’s all about being seen to have clean hands. Unfortunately too many just like JY are at the forefront of the TRA movement. This is what happens in groups like that. Once they feel the power slipping because of the behaviour of some of them, they will turn on each other. It’s not about doing the right thing, it’s about holding onto power.

This extract pretty much sums it up for me:

In the future, please consider what these allegations sound like from my community’s side of the fence in the context of our experiences. Perhaps center your fury on the people who prey on transgender women with their alarmist fairy tales that made this incident undetectable from dominantly hateful narrative.

Alarmist fairy tales....yep because it never happens does it? When it does the response is to circle the wagons and be silent and that's 100% the fault of anyone who doesn't fall in line with the trans cult.

Classic DARVO in action.

What. A. Prick.

"Perhaps center your fury on the people who prey on transgender women with their alarmist fairy tales that made this incident undetectable from dominantly hateful narrative.

When there is a predator among us, we can’t hear you if you bury your words in hatred and if you don’t reach out."

So we said this kind of thing would happen, is happening and nobody would listen to us, but somehow it's still our fault. The trans community and its ideology put this predator amongst women and girls. Oger needs to start taking responsibility, instead of blaming women as usual.

Oger needs to understand and own that Jy is a trans woman. Get over it. JY's modus operandi has been always to be included into the girls toilet. If JY is sent to prison, does JY go to a female prison or a male prison?

'made this incident undetectable'

But women have detected what this person is about for ages...

Going to read article will be interested to see WHAT. MO has to say about the ball waxing lawsuits and the making of money around it...

Perhaps trans women like this think they are real women. And women just need to get over it.

Why isn't Oger publicly telling Yaniv to stay the fuck out of women's toilets and far far away from women and girls in any setting? Too busy lecturing women on what we've done wrong.

Also 'misbehaviour', 'mischief'? Really? That's what we're calling it now?

Oger needs to understand and own that Jy is a trans woman. Get over it. JY's modus operandi has been always to be included into the girls toilet

Yup. Oger refers to JY as "she" and "her" throughout, which is at it should be - own it.

If you make a community that is above the law why would you be surprised when predators take full advantage? Its happened in the church, its happened in charities, there are plenty of precedents to explain why we have rules of conduct and safeguarding that apply to everyone.

More likely tipping point has been reached.

An article with main motivation being to call out serious Safeguarding concerns & possible predatory behaviour against children doesn't look this.
Worth looking to see how many paragraphs in before its identified & consider the focus of the majority of paragraphs.

Oh, FFS Oger.

On another thread we are roundly criticising a woman (the classic, cunty kind) for being a paedophile apologist.

In the future, please consider what these allegations sound like from my community’s side of the fence in the context of our experiences. Perhaps center your fury on the people who prey on transgender women with their alarmist fairy tales that made this incident undetectable from dominantly hateful narrative

You want to be treated like women? Well, we are angry with a woman who hasn’t actually done anything criminal herself, just stayed with a man who viewed images of child abuse (and then told his/her story for profit/fame). You not only refused to listen when women (and other transwomen, eg, Miranda Yardley and Rose of Dawn) sounded the alarm, but you got a women’s rape shelter defunded, and then tried to blame women for men’s violence against transpeople.

Finally accepting that JY might not be a very nice person is too little, too late.

Fuck off.

* "as the mom of kids under 14*"

I can't help feeling those words undermine the argument. How does the actual mother who gave birth to those children feel about this appropriation? Does she not have a stake in safeguarding those children?