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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Morgane Oger calls out JY

99 replies

Nephilim1964 · 20/04/2019 18:03

Never in a million years did I think I'd see this....

'Preying on children makes you a predator regardless of who you are'

'I wish it wasn’t a transgender person or someone saying they are part of the LGBTQ+ community who has been doing what Jessica Yaniv has reportedly been doing for years – as far back as 2013'

morganeoger.ca/2019/04/19/preying-on-children-makes-you-a-predator-regardless-of-who-you-are/

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sackrifice · 21/04/2019 08:29

This person is literally just interested in this person.

If this person can use anything to keep this person in the centre of anything, then this person will use that to their advantage.

BettyDuMonde · 21/04/2019 08:34

At least two transsexual people also raised the alarm, Miranda and Rose of Dawn.

Oger saying that Ogerself can’t see the (wood) sexual predator for the (trees) transphobia doesn’t stack up anyway, but the lie is especially obvious when you consider that Mir and Rose were saying it along with Megan and Alicia.

Needmoresleep · 21/04/2019 08:35

I cant recall this being posted up thread.

Rose of Dawn is a young articulate transexual whose aim appears to be to achieve societal acceptance to enable them to live with their dysphoria, rather than to demand "rights" and the dismantling of societal protections.

She tracked the NUS/Jess Bradley saga and has featured Morgane Oger recently. The JY piece last week seemed brave yet very little obvious complaint, for something that might well have had others thrown off platforms. .

Perhaps MO is concerned that there is a group of younger cooler brighter trans people, seeking acceptance rather than attention and who are ready to call-out those who they feel stand in their way. Far harder to dismiss than Terves.

(And weird how political parties fall over themselves to lay out the red carpet for Lily Madigan and Aimee Challenor, whilst ignoring Fionne Orlander, Rose of Dawn and others. The wonderful MRKHvoice who speaks up for intersex people perhaps. Do those so keen to promote young trans women, want people they can control rather than those who might have their own views and an informed interest in wider issues.)

BettyDuMonde · 21/04/2019 08:37

Rise of Dawn’s JY video: m.youtube.com/watch?v=7S7-8At-Ock

BettyDuMonde · 21/04/2019 08:38

Cross post!

BettyDuMonde · 21/04/2019 09:01

Oger - It’s unlikely public figures are the monsters your social media silo tells you they are.

No shit mate - perhaps you need to re-evaluate Megan Murphy using your own advice?

When both women and transpeople and GC and non-GC people are saying someone is a monster, however, it’s a lot more likely that they are actually a monster. Y’know, like JY.

2BthatUnnoticed · 21/04/2019 11:50

JY has “connections” at Twitter and is able to get anyone who calls him out banned (Megan Murphy, for example).

MO low-key defended JY’s actions just last week.

Morgane Oger calls out JY
placemats · 21/04/2019 19:15

I believe Oger is so lazy in thought, mind and physical exercise they can't even be bothered to back peddle.

Lazy arse!

pombear · 21/04/2019 20:57

Wow. It seems MO's been taking lessons from the Rachel McKinnon school of truth:

twitter.com/MorganeOgerBC/status/1119814063360368640
The reason Yaniv had cover was the methods used by TERFs

"It's all you women's fault. You're all to blame" MO says, pointing finger like a toddler caught out (whilst also writing a gaslighting article that smears women and refers to Yaniv's actions as either a mental health matter at play or pure mischief - or could be, Mo, just could be a plain regular potential abuser, eh? Mischief?).

If this wasn't so serious, it would be laughable to watch in live action.

bettybeans · 21/04/2019 22:07

So MO has dumped JY, but there's clearly still an ally somewhere there at Twitter. It's crazy how easily JY has people permanently banned. People with old accounts and a strong record of uncontroversial content, often publicly known people like journalists or political commentators. Doesn't matter - if JY hits the button, they're out. Hate to admit it but that's one hell of a superpower to have, and to be able to abuse.

bettybeans · 21/04/2019 22:09

Also MO doesn't seem stupid enough not to realise that few will be fooled by the tardy reaction. Like JY, MO knows that MO is pretty much bulletproof by the look of things. Those who matter to MO won't care about the detail or nuance. That's a worry too.

pombear · 21/04/2019 22:31

Betty though I'm not attributing these qualities to any one person, I think, in general:

  • Narcissism
  • Anger
  • Fury
  • Woman-envy
  • Woman-hating
  • Revenge
can sometimes override any rational thinking.

When you're caught up in a runaway train scenario of your own making, you may well not be stupid, you may well be of normal intelligence, but all of the above may override your rational brain and cause you to make irrational decisions, statements and claims.

Just a generic observation on human behaviour, obviously.

BuzzPeakWankBobbly · 22/04/2019 09:15

This is just MO signposting now, so they can point to it in the future and say they "did something" and "[whatever is about to come out] is nothing to do with me guv. Never liked that JY fella anyway, knew he was a wrong un, look how brave I was for speaking out when nobody else would!"

Similar to how, for example, someone else might say they are deeply involved in running a period poverty campaign, by virtue of the fact they have a single photo of them with writing on their hand.

All virtue signalling of the highest order. Or, rats leaving a sinking ship, whichever you prefer.

BuzzPeakWankBobbly · 22/04/2019 09:21

hah! Just went for a nosey to check my theory and BOOM.

JY is actually Women's fault all along! Of course it is!
And MO isn't going down without a fight either, although there is heartening pushback from less addled minds on the tweet.

(my bold)

Amy hamm incites hatred against trans women because of who we are. Maybe she didn't get the memo, so I'll say it more explicitly: She and FeministCurrent enabled Yaniv, creating social cover by inciting repulsive hatred instead of researching the facts and reporting. #DoYourJob

twitter.com/MorganeOgerBC/status/1119652768606605312

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 09:32

Well it will open a lot of eyes, and those who have gone along not wanting to rock the boat or wake the ogre will now say ‘NO MORE’.

FannyCann · 22/04/2019 10:40

I just don't get all the banning people from twitter thing that is going on with him.
Everyone talks about his “friends in high places” at twitter. But who the hell wants to be friends with him? How high up in twitter do you need to be to have the power of banning people? Has he got something on that person one wonders? It all seems extraordinary to me, and all in plain sight. It’s bizarre.

BettyDuMonde · 22/04/2019 10:45

Paedophiles often have networks, Fanny. Just sayin’...

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/04/2019 10:47

And friends in ‘high’ places. Which never works out well for them (fleas-dog-lie).

MenuPlant · 22/04/2019 11:55

It's appalling that this person is blaming women for the actions of a creepy perve.

FannyCann · 22/04/2019 12:17

Paedophiles often have networks, Fanny. Just sayin’...

I know, but unless those friends are people right at the very top one would think a few senior execs would be seeking out the culprits and investigating.

Still, at our annual NHS Information Governance training we are always cautioned not to access our own, or our family's records to eg. Check recent blood test results etc. Which would be very simple to do and save the effort of ringing up the GP. I never would because I never would and also because I know it is somethings IT audits and every year they catch people. Apparently in a recent trawl they caught someone high up enough in the trust that it was difficult to find someone senior enough to discipline them. So I guess I'm thinking along those lines. Confused

BeansandRice · 22/04/2019 12:59

People like Oger should try listening to feminists more

People should listen to women more.

It’s soooooooooo interesting, isn’t it, the gatekeeping done by trans people of other trans people? Almost as if they need to control their public image in case the rest of us see through things.

Oh, wait ....

AlwaysComingHome · 22/04/2019 23:10

This made me laugh.

Morgane Oger calls out JY
WelshMoth · 23/04/2019 22:41

When there is a predator among us, we can’t hear you because of all the word salad shit we spout

There. I've edited it for you Morgane.

The rest of your words? I don't believe nor trust a single word you say. We all know this is about covering your own arse.

We will wait patiently, watching.

BeansandRice · 24/04/2019 09:21

Yes, and how dare they blame it on feminists/women, because Transphobia.

Women have been calling out this behaviour for centuries. But men don't listen, and clearly, neither do transwomen.

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