Are there identifiable causes for being trans?

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Fionne is sharing some heartbreaking testimonies on Twitter from transwomen who were manipulated by their mothers - I do wonder if sometimes women project 'I wish you had been a girl' so strongly that the impressionable child starts to try to please?

Then there's the three year old boy who said he was a girl - only when given time to talk did it come out that his parents had a younger daughter with many special needs including extra time and attention. Little boy can only conclude they love girls more - so he insists he's a girl.

Debbie, the transman who transitioned at 44 (when menopause hit, maybe?) - and 15 years later bitterly regrets it because she's come to terms with the fact that it was triggered by her father's sexual abuse

The whole feeling lowest of the low if you're a lesbian or gay teen - but suddenly fashionably fascinating if you say you're trans

Irresponsible magazine calling a school the coolest in the country because so many children say they're trans - who wouldn't want to join the latest craze and get called cool in print?

Autistic children who find dealing with the world so difficult, suddenly also having to cope with new bits that look, feel, smell and behave differently, including hurting, and attracting wierd unwanted attention, reactions and touching

Kids whose interests, behaviour and dress don't fit the prescribed pink and blue approval lists being ushered through the 'you're clearly trans' door

Adults (including parents) who are so committed to wanting children kept in a pre adolescent form for longer than is natural that they develop, prescribe, promote and lobby for puberty blockers (what's that about?)

Charming, articulate and cute transmen publishing chirpy polished how-to videos on Instagram flourishing binders, mastectomy and phalloplasty scars to community cooing response - what a lovely welcoming sense of belonging endorphins that must trigger

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I don't understand the nazis bit

They burnt books didnt they? They'd make crap librarians

I love Rowan trees, we always plant them outside our house as "protection" .

Scottish tradition.

I haven't spotted this article on this thread, but I might have got distracted. It was posted in its own right recently and I thought it excellent.

Gender incongruence is broken up into the different groups it mainly effects, causes are different for each group.

4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/

Someone called R0 a Nazi? Don't people realise that when they utter that word, everything thereafter doesn't get read?

You'd think, given the high suicide rate, the fact that TRAs say being trans subjects you to violence, intimidation, victimisation and discrimination, they'd be absolutely delighted to learn more about what causes gender dysphoria.

And I'm not really joking. Why on earth wouldn't you want to know? Unless you were perfectly upfront about it being men's rights activism.

Even raging autogynephiles often sound as though they'd give anything to be rid of the addiction (the bingeing and the purging etc).

So going out of your way to shut people down who are finding out about it is very odd.

from a current thread discussing Julie Bindel's recent articles about important feminists (linked previously)

OldCrone shared this 2003 article by Julie Bindel (embedded in the piece about Janice Raymond):

Abridged from The Sunday Telegraph Magazine, 15 November 2003

‘I changed for all the wrong reasons,
and then it was too late...’
When, if ever, should a person have a sex-change operation, and whose decision is it to make? Julie Bindel reports on concerns that psychiatrists are too ready to recommend the knife'
(extract)
‘I changed for all the wrong reasons, and then it was too late,’ says Claudia. ‘I was seen for 45 minutes by a psychiatrist in private practice, and I believe I was railroaded into thinking that an irreversible operation was the only solution. It made me feel they were just in it for my money.’ Claudia is currently unable to work due to depression, caused by the operation: ‘I feel like this sex change has just made me into some kind of freak.’

Dr Fiona Mason, a forensic psychiatrist with an expertise in gender issues, is seriously concerned about the practices of some private clinics dealing with transsexualism. ‘I can’t imagine assessing anyone suffering from a serious disorder in under three hours. It can take three years to assess patients with complex problems. The trouble with some private clinics is that the patients are just given hormones after an hour-long appointment, which can have an irreversible effect on the body.’

Some critics are even going as far as to say that psychiatrists have not, in fact, ‘discovered’ transsexuals but created them. That is, that once ‘transsexual’ and ‘gender-identity disorder’ (GID) became common currency more people began interpreting their experience in these terms. Specialists working in gender-identity clinics made similar complaints about their patients as early as the mid-1970s" (continues)
archive.li/1bcWN

OldCrone wrote, "An interesting perspective considering where we are now."

The article is worth reading in full, especially interesting to read Dr Russell Reid's comments & his involvement in (now, I believe, prohibited) surgical intervention for body dysmorphic disorder (BDD)

I have two older brothers (10 and 7.5 years older) and remember my mum saying that she used to get really annoyed when my second brother was born and some people would say to her that she must have been disappointed not to have a girl as a second child. So there are people out there with skewed thinking.

Actually, she was just glad that the younger of my brothers, who was an extremely sickly child, made it to become a robust adult.