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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaids - new statement

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MsMcWoodle · 06/04/2019 08:14

I can't find a thread that mentions this. Sorry if this has been covered but didn't want it to get lost:
Times Lucy has tried to question Mermaids again - but as usual, they won't be questioned and just put out a statement:
www.mermaidsuk.org.uk/tavistock-complaints-process.html

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RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 07:53

No comment from national lottery fund?

Tbf is only 7.54am!

0ccamsRazor · 08/04/2019 07:55

I would like to see the Lottery funding being pulled from this organisation.

EweSurname · 08/04/2019 07:57

Sorry red just seen you'd posted about webberly on the other thread!

Iused2BanOptimist · 08/04/2019 07:58

The tweet from the NHS trans account has prompted quite a what Kiwi Farms like to call "chimp out". Wink

https://twitter.com/transnhs/status/1115006038514774016?s=21

buzzbobbly · 08/04/2019 07:59

Their hysteria doesn't do them any favours. Calling it hate speech is just deranged.

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 08:00

Tara Hewitt @ tara_hewitt
Trans people make up 1% of the population, this week a trans child had their head stamped on at school & another trans young person was slashed with a knife in the face in public. Yet today The Times has FOUR transphpbic articles targeting trans children. This is sick cruel abuse

There's your spin folks!!

Fazackerley · 08/04/2019 08:01

I'm blocked 😂😂

StephsCaddy · 08/04/2019 08:13

Well the spin (it I like to call truth) would be now trans children are suffering from bullying but also will be put on a medical pathway that will irreversibly significantly damage their body.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/04/2019 08:17

Children are bullied for all sorts of reasons. Don’t forget the girls who are bullied (and not by other kids - by so called professionals) for wanting to have girl only facilities or - shock horror- for being a tomboy or lesbian.

Fazackerley · 08/04/2019 08:22

I am trying to understand - if you had a child who was desperately upset and being bullied - why on earth would you then take the decision to give them irreversible medical treatment? It might give them hope for a short term but the long term consequences are unknown at best, disfiguring and unstable at worst, requiring a lifetime of medical care? All the parents who have done it say - if your child is desperate you'll do anything- would you? Should you? Surely as an adult and parent your job is to look down that long, physical and mental road ahead and say I don't want that life for my child and I don't want them to want it either? No child willingly chooses constant medication, surgery, experimental in some cases, and a lifetime of having to get your life validated on Twitter? Surely?

Fazackerley · 08/04/2019 08:25

Children are bullied because bullies exist. Bullies will pick on anyone that they perceive as different. A girl pushed another girl down the stairs at dds school this term. She is a bully, she did it because the girl has glasses and her mum had died. That's how horrible some children are, being trans is just one in a long list of spurious reasons that bullies use to justify their behaviour.

OrchidInTheSun · 08/04/2019 08:27

I think they 'affirm or they'll kill themselves' narrative is very strong fazakerly.

I can imagine that it feels very dangerous to follow the watchful waiting path when your child is being coached on how to terrify you into indulging their whims

NowtSalamander · 08/04/2019 09:20

I have to say, as a parent I has been there, that the biggest problem is a lack of alternative narratives (esp in US). I knew what the NHS was telling me felt wrong and because I am intellectually self confident I kept pushing till I found sources of alternative opinion. It’s much harder if you trust authority, are gullible, or not accustomed to doing your own research. None of which should make us criticise these parents.

NowtSalamander · 08/04/2019 09:20

*who has been there

OldCrone · 08/04/2019 11:30

The lack of understanding of what happens to children on puberty blockers is shown here.

twitter.com/Catastrfy/status/1115028279684206598

These people seem to have no understanding that puberty often makes makes a child desist. It's not that the 'puberty blockers change one's gender', it's that they stop the natural production of the hormones which often cause desistance in a child who thinks their body is wrong.

Mermaids - new statement
theOtherPamAyres · 08/04/2019 12:04

this week a trans child had their head stamped on at school & another trans young person was slashed with a knife in the face in public.

Note that Hewitt never states which country the attacks happen in.

The police in the UK are trying very, very hard to prosecute someone somewhere for transphobic hate crimes, but have failed. They were criticised for this. Third party agencies were set up specifically to allow LGBT to report crimes against them, where the victims didn't want to call the police directly. it was hoped that serious attacks like the ones Hewitt described would give the police more to go on.

The only cases that the police have prosecuted/attempted to prosecute have been for malicious communications. And that's only due to the lack of violent crimes reported in the UK to them and third parties.

Something's not right. I suspect that these horrendous attacks were in South America, Eastern Europe or infamous homophobic countries.

I believe that Hewitt is being dishonest and creating myths about the extent of violent crimes against transgender people in the UK.

Dothehappydance · 08/04/2019 12:13

Pam I agree, any major assaults within a school do reach the media, so no news on this doesn't add up.

Fazackerley · 08/04/2019 12:15

The trans child who was kicked in the head was in the UK wasn't it?

Dothehappydance · 08/04/2019 12:15

My mistake it does seem to have happened at the weekend in Essex. Dreadful, and I hope the attackers are caught.

RepealTheGRA · 08/04/2019 12:16

Much as I hate to defend Hewitt those incidents were UK theOtherPamAyres.

I think Stonewall whipping up transphobia/homophobia with their science denying, authoritarian, rainbow washing stance could’ve been a contributing factor.

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/police-confirm-investigation-school-attack-2722602

R0wantrees · 08/04/2019 12:19

Tara Hewitt @ tara_hewitt
Trans people make up 1% of the population, this week a trans child had their head stamped on at school & another trans young person was slashed with a knife in the face in public. Yet today The Times has FOUR transphpbic articles targeting trans children. This is sick cruel abuse

Tara Hewitt is employed by the NHS to advise on Diversity at an influential, managerial level.
Tara Hewitt also advises on Social Care policy & creation of toolkits for Foster carers, Social Workers & Looked After children & Young People.
Tara Hewitt (with Jess Bradley & Michelle Hudson) co-founded TELI

Tara Hewitt has demonstrated a consistant failure to engage with Safeguarding & Duty of Care concerns for females, especially girls who may be identifying as transgender:

October 2018 Spectator:
Trans rights have gone wrong
The new gender orthodoxy allows no room for dissent
James Kirkup
(extract)
What explains the disproportionate number of girls (child ‘assigned female at birth’, to use the approved term) who are starting a journey that can lead to hormone treatment, then binding and ultimately removing their breasts? Is it possible that this is simply part of a wider crisis of mental health among girls?

I don’t know, and neither do the doctors and scientists who study this issue. (continues)

The government now intends to commission research into all this. You might think that sounds sensible and mundane. You would be wrong.

According to Tara Hewitt, founder of the Trans Equality Legal Initiative (TELI), prominent campaigner for transgender rights and an adviser to numerous public bodies including the NHS, the proposed research is ‘absurd and offensive’. The project should be ‘dropped in the bin — it’s simply not an inquiry that needs to happen,’ Hewitt reckons.

This is the quintessential trans-rights response to scrutiny: even looking for facts about children’s welfare is transphobic. Just accept that trans girls are girls and trans women are women. End of debate." (continues)
www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/trans-rights-have-gone-wrong/

relevent threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374926-What-influence-does-TELI-have-on-government-public-services-and-charities-policies-Co-founders-include-Jess-Bradley-Tara-Hewitt-and-Michelle-Hudson

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