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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good things that happen when you wear an "Adult Human Female" hoodie

230 replies

Candidpeel · 30/03/2019 23:25

I live in mine when I'm not at work....

Mainly get smiles from older women and glares from blue haired teenagers.

Wore it on the Brexit March and "like your jumper" worked as a secret handshake to find a new member for our local GC meet-up group

Answered the door to a council election candidate in it today and had a great conversation about what the gender critical grown ups are trying to do to bring the Green party to its senses.

I haven't yet bumped into another hoodie wearer in the wild :)

What has happened to you when you wear yours?

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Candidpeel · 30/03/2019 23:25

(and if you haven't got one yet here they are: www.standingforwomen.com/shop

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PetraDelphiki · 30/03/2019 23:32

I wore my t shirt for 2 days and nobody even commented!!!

GuitarGeek · 30/03/2019 23:46

I wore my t shirt for 2 days and nobody even commented!!!

Maybe they were too busy eye rolling or trying not to laugh.

esk1mo · 30/03/2019 23:48

I have the stickers but they barely last 24h in my area Sad

TheGrey1houndSpeaks · 30/03/2019 23:49

Why would they eyeroll or laugh, Guitar?

NotAJellyBaby · 30/03/2019 23:55

What are the gender critical grown ups are trying to do to bring the Green party to its senses?

ErrolTheDragon · 30/03/2019 23:55

Maybe no-one commented because for most of the world it would be a kinda obvious and uncontroversial?

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:01

I was really privileged to experience walking alongside an 'adulthumanfemale' hoodie-wearer in the wild today.

I noticed a couple of glances, and a very warm 'hi' from people that neither of us knew. despite being from quite a small town.

In a way, I'd hope it shouldn' provoke too many responses as it's just stating a thing that most of us know to be true.

Though right now, at the very least, there's people like GuitarGeek (hello, you seem to be new to these pastures) who may feel it's worth an 'eye-roll' or a 'laugh'.

Trust me, GuitarGeek , the conversations we were having on our walk were far from laughing or eye-rolling. They were focused on women and children's rights.

You go ahead and eye-roll lovely. We'll be over having grown-up conversations Smile

OccasionalKite · 31/03/2019 00:02

Oooooh! Touched a nerve there on GuitarGeek!

OccasionalKite · 31/03/2019 00:03

Yes, well said, pombear!

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:04

Errol exactly! it's not rocket-science! A statement of fact. But some would state it's an evil, hateful piece of clothing (cough Harropian-speak!)

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:13

OccasionalKite - exactly, to those trying to rationalise why someone would be eye-rolling and laughing because someone was wearing an item of clothing that stated fact.

Oooh, look at you railing against 'new fake science' and denying female-penises in women's spaces, defining females as females, defending feminism,. hurting fellingz in defence of lesbian women and children's right to grow up without medicalisation. Oooh, You're so 20th century. Eye-roll

GuitarGeek do share your thoughts on why it's funny and worth an eye-roll?

TheGrey1houndSpeaks · 31/03/2019 00:15

I knew GuitarGeek wouldn’t/couldn’t answer. Their sort never do.

Ella1980 · 31/03/2019 00:20

There was a lady in the press the other day who wore hers in a pub or something and got asked to leave at apparently it could cause offence. I'm being dense but how could the wording on the t-shirt be offensive?

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:23

TheGrey It's almost like they 'plop and leave' in the misunderstanding that their 'oh-so-woke' statements will enlighten us, without any context or discussion.

I worry for the next generation of debaters, as 'debate' seems now to be definted as ' hey, you're wrong' and then 'run away'.

It's not very helpful! (Well, not to their debate!)

I'll just keep wandering along, alongside the lovely hoodie-wearer, having realistic, normal conversations that nudge the conversation towards reality.

OccasionalKite · 31/03/2019 00:26

How can something be offensive when it is: 1) the accepted dictionary definition; and 2) actual reality?

Woman = adult human female.

Ella1980 · 31/03/2019 00:30

I honestly don't know. I don't get how a genuine official current dictionary definition can be offensive?

AdultHuman · 31/03/2019 00:35

There was a lady in the press the other day who wore hers in a pub or something and got asked to leave at apparently it could cause offence. I'm being dense but how could the wording on the t-shirt be offensive?

It made a non trans woke bloke cry.ConfusedShock

OccasionalKite · 31/03/2019 00:36

Exactly, Ella1980!

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:43

Ella - because we are no longer able to state reality, without offending people who don't like gender stereotypes, but haven't quite understood that gender stereotypes are separate from bioloigcal sex.

And, for the reasons in the thread above, these angry people have recently demanded an 'in' to the definition of 'adult human female'.

These people who are 'offended' span a wide range of 'I'm offended' categories, from:-

-men (and a tiny minority or women) in their' 40's, 50's and 60's who would have used to have been labelled as 'transvestite' and would have indulged their sexual enjoyment of transgressing shit categories of what makes a woman/man in private, but are now living their dream out in public. (PS The majority of those older males in the 'transgender' category right now)

  • those who truly felt theirr physical body didn't match the gender stereotypes they felt forced into, and therefore made efforts surgically to try to match the other biological sex categrory they wished to be in with cosmetic surgery. Still not 'women' but had surgery to imitate women as much as possible.

Ella anyone (woman) who dares to state the dictionary definition of woman apparently 'erases' the people above.

Despite the fact that it doesn't. It just states there's a difference.

GuitarGeek · 31/03/2019 00:47

Why would they eyeroll or laugh, Guitar?

Well because it's a bit 🙄 or 😂 that someone would walk around wearing clothing with a dictionary definition on their jumper, waiting for something to happen, a comment or a reaction.

Redshoeblueshoe · 31/03/2019 00:50

Well my guitar softly sleeps

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:55

Yes, I see your point Guitar but given we are in a situation where that definition of 'woman' seems up for debate, do you agree that it's become a political statement?

Ella1980 · 31/03/2019 00:58

@pombear Awesome explanation, thank you. To me, fact is quite simply that- fact. A dictionary definition is factual so really nobody should be offended by it should they? I'd understand it might cause offence if the t-shirt was expressing opinion but on the other hand...I used to have a lanyard that said "Breast is best." To me this is fact. But others might still be offended by it? Got me thinking now!

pombear · 31/03/2019 00:59

if I went round with the definition of Penguin
penguin
/ˈpɛŋɡwɪn/
noun
a large flightless seabird of the southern hemisphere, with black upper parts and white underparts and wings developed into flippers for swimming under water.

on my sweatshirt. I wouldn't be concerned. No one's likely to laugh or eye-roll, eh?

But I'm sure you'll be aware, given you're a poster on this board, that the simple definition of 'woman-adult human female' is under attack in a way that the 'penguin' definition isn't?

Unless you've been hiding under a rock for the last couple of months?