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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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Pimmsnlemonade · 19/03/2019 00:11

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:29

Oh they say ‘but FGM is forced’ - which I’m sure 99.9999999% of the time it is.

But I’m also sure that there are little girls who are brainwashed and told that they just need a wee procedure to please god/dad/society and make them a ‘good girl’.

JackyHolyoake · 20/03/2019 08:31

LordProfFekko

"Where are all these P.C. Buttercups?"

I suspect it is the police LGBT groups who are pushing this trans propaganda, on direction via Stonewall and, in Leeds particularly, via Mermaids.

O4FS · 20/03/2019 08:32

I wonder if @VicDerbyshire will bring up SG’s colleague taking trans woman Miranda Yardley to court and the case promptly being thrown out by the judge?

I wonder if there will be an investigation into the links with Mermaids and the West Yorkshire police?

I wonder when misogyny will be considered a hate crime? When women being killed by men at, what is it, 2 every week, will be taken as seriously as ‘misgendering’?

SG et al are making themselves a laughing stock.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:33

The VD (oh dear) show may come out as biased but social media will do its best/worst and contrary to popular belief, people don’t believe everything they hear on the BBC.

If they go the whole ‘waahhhhh my poor baby girl! She is so perfect and I’ve had such a hard life. The bad girls are so scary and want to literally misgender is to death! If they don’t stop I’ll too myself - we will all top ourselves then they will be sorry!’ then it will just wake a lot of people up. Well anyone who has ever had to deal with toddler tactics.

Skittlesss · 20/03/2019 08:33

FGM is forced, but then again has young Jackie come to this decision on their own? Looks like they’ve been pressured into it at such a young age.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:36

I hate to even say it but if I had a baby from day one and told them consistently that they were actually a bit ‘wrong’ and their body wasn’t quite right, that they were really really the opposite sex then - outcome?

Take a child who is likely to be gay. Push this agenda - outcome?

We need to consider the parenting style. We know that some styles are harmful.

hackmum · 20/03/2019 08:37

I think even if Jackie Green consented to the procedure enthusiastically, that still wouldn't make it legal. After all, a 15-year old girl can agree enthusiastically to sex with an older man, but the older man would still be breaking the law, because in legal terms, a 15-year old can't "consent" to sex. So it is a puzzle why Green hasn't been prosecuted.

Caro - on an earlier thread, I can't remember which one, but possibly when Harry the Owl was questioned by police, you used the phrase: "The devil always overplays his hand." That's gone through my head ever since. This is exactly what we are seeing here. At some point they will overplay their hand so badly there will be a massive public outrage. Who knows? This may even be the case.

I hope that in the article you're writing for the Sunday newspaper you're able to mention the terrible harassment and intimidation you've been subjected to and the fact that the police haven't done anything about it. That's just as shocking as them questioning you about something as trivial as this.

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/03/2019 08:38

Where are all these P.C. Buttercups?

Behind desks. While their colleagues don stab proof vests and put their lives on the line daily keeping the rest of us safe from actual crime.

This will really damage public faith in the police and the courts. At a time when the police are being subjected to deep austerity cuts and can’t deal with physical crimes, this is an obscene waste of resources. It casts the police and CPS as a controlling force, not a protective one and in a country where we are policed by consent that is extremely troubling.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:40

Who handles police complaints? Who has the agency to investigate the stop this (and bunk those responsible for pushing this down to policing football matches and demos?)

Popchyk · 20/03/2019 08:40

Now that the complaint has been dropped, we won't know what exactly the detail of the complaint actually was.

So Susie can spin it into "awfully spiteful, hurtful Tweets that I'm too upset to even repeat. I only want to help children, that's the only reason why I do this".

And there will be nobody there to challenge her version of events.

borntobequiet · 20/03/2019 08:40

I think VD’s career will spectacularly nosedive once the TG scandal really breaks. She’s too invested.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:42

Nobody? I’d love to meet this woman face to face, look her in the eye )not in an aggressive way, I’m not like that) but just to ask her quietly ‘hand on heart, who are you angry with?’

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/03/2019 08:43

The VD (oh dear) show may come out as biased but social media will do its best/worst and contrary to popular belief

This^ The problem SG (and the TRAs in general) have is that their whole argument is built on sand. There is nothing they can actually really say that makes any sense and that people will really believe.

While you can just about believe in it as an abstract "TWAW" context as soon as anything more than that is said the whole thing just falls apart.

2rebecca · 20/03/2019 08:44

After the Miranda case I don't understand why Mermaids didn't withdraw all their thought crime objections. Asking the police to prosecute a woman who is willing to go on TV to discuss her views and who was obviously going to fight it shows very poor judgement.
Hopefully it will show up how police forces' impartiality becomes twisted when they get "training in dealing with trans people" from a one sided very biased organisation that then tries to turn the police in to their personal militia.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 20/03/2019 08:48

JackyHolyoake

The comments from GMB, who made those comments?

Bluestitch · 20/03/2019 08:48

Just looking at that video clip of SG laughing. This woman has publicised her story and her child's private medical information, via interviews, TED Talks, a TV drama, she even makes her living off the back of it. The arrogance to think you can do all that and yet never have to deal with dissenting opinion and in fact get the authorities to silence it!

littlbrowndog · 20/03/2019 08:49

When will we get senior police officers tweeting out I detest womanphobia and I stand with women and girls
We the police will stop the murder of 2 women every week
We the police stand strong with women
No place for womanphobia

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/03/2019 08:49

Maybe VD will show the clip and cut to mummy dabbing her eyes at the nasty woman saying ‘he’.

Albamahanna · 20/03/2019 08:49

A little off topic but I do wish she wouldn't include that she's catholic, and I have seen others tweet about religion as a way to back up their views. I think mentioning religion undermines the whole argument as it can have homophobic connotations and could imply views are held because of what is in the bible rather than biology. I don't think it helps the cause to bring religion into it in anyway.

boatyardblues · 20/03/2019 08:52

Might as well be up front about being a Catholic, as its in the public domain and her knockers would use it to undermine her anyway.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/03/2019 08:54

Even if Susie has dropped it, can Caroline still find out what the tweets were?
If I was her it would drive me mad not knowing.
If so, the ball will be firmly in C's court: once she that information she can shine even more light on it.
If the police are seen to be keeping the information from her that's an even worse look for them.

JackyHolyoake · 20/03/2019 08:57

JessicaWakefieldSVH

"The comments from GMB, who made those comments?"

It is my personal comment in reaction to that discussion.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 20/03/2019 08:58

JackyHolyoake oh! Sorry, duh! Was it not a good discussion?

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 20/03/2019 08:59

Can Caro make a complaint of harassment? From Susie? False claims etc?? I mean what harm is actually done from misgendering this person who is already outed by their own mother, many times.

sackrifice · 20/03/2019 08:59

One of these live shows needs to step up and show the footage of her laughing about her son's tiny penis.

They would if it was ANY OTHER subject.

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