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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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Pimmsnlemonade · 19/03/2019 00:11

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 19/03/2019 17:19

After the judge making it clear what he thought of CPS allowing Miranda's case to get to court, which was a pretty big public humiliation for them, I'll be staggered if they'll try again. Mermaids aren't doing their reputation or the police's reputation much good.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 19/03/2019 17:19

Just for the avoidance of doubt, I don't believe women can turn into men either.

If such things are proven to be achievable, I myself plan to turn into a cat.

R0wantrees · 19/03/2019 17:23

I wonder what would happen if every single person who agrees with caro was to post the "offending" tweets (or similarly worded) on their own accounts in solidarity.

Caroline herself has said she doesn't know yet what the tweets said.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 19/03/2019 17:26

Time to start reporting the vile misogyny that we receive daily to the police.

Absofuckinglutely

How the fuck has that Neanderthal nitwit Harrop not been interviewed for his offensive misogynistic crap? That’s right, women are fair game

ThePurportedDoctoress · 19/03/2019 17:29

I wonder what would happen if every single person who agrees with caro was to post the "offending" tweets (or similarly worded) on their own accounts in solidarity. Would we be all be arrested? I think I would happily take that chance if it would help in any way.

Have a look at Harry the Owl's twitter, he's been busy trying to get the police's attention! Grin
I can't copy his tweets here, they would get deleted.

JackyHolyoake · 19/03/2019 17:29

Angryresister

"Time to start reporting the vile misogyny that we receive daily to the police. Has anyone done this yet?"

Yes, we need women in West Yorkshire to contact WYP and make an abundance of complaints about hate crime towards them, since it is from WYP where most of these cases about transgenderism arise.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 19/03/2019 17:41

Yes, we need women in West Yorkshire to contact WYP and make an abundance of complaints about hate crime towards them

God knows Twitter is knee deep in evidence. Yes, this.

And anyone harassed by the police can make an immediate counter complaint for harassment by the police and the complainant, preferably to a different police force. That ought to tie them up in red tape for a bit.

nicenewdusters · 19/03/2019 17:43

So men's vaginas are un upgrade on womens ????

Never has the phrase "go fuck yourself then" seemed so apt.

NicoAndTheNiners · 19/03/2019 17:51

How would any man or trans woman be able to say that a neo vAgina is better than a real vagina? None of them will ever have a clue what it feels like to have a real vagina as part of their own body.

rocketromano · 19/03/2019 17:52

caro sorry you are going through this, I would also be happy to donate to crowdfunder if needed for your legal fees.
That interview with SG! How many lies can she spin? No trans person ever hurt anyone, most oppressed, etc, etc. Quite astonishing really
Am also pleased to see that Piers is aware of this case, and of course the awesome Harry the Owl!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/03/2019 17:54

How the fuck has that Neanderthal nitwit Harrop not been interviewed for his offensive misogynistic crap

Yes, we need women in West Yorkshire to contact WYP and make an abundance of complaints about hate crime towards them

Unlike transphobia, misogyny is not a hate crime.

Datun · 19/03/2019 18:03

If neo vaginas are better, great. They can all fuck each other and leave women alone.

JackyHolyoake · 19/03/2019 18:05

Datun

The word is fauxgina, please.

Lamaha · 19/03/2019 18:11

A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he—

he

Isn't this also misgendering, in this case?

happydappy2 · 19/03/2019 18:21

caro I am appalled at what you are going through-any sane person would support you. As far as I know it is NOT a criminal offence to misgender someone, yet. If you need to start a crowdfunder I would support you. I fear it is classic bullying tactics to make us all afraid to speak out....which is why so important we keep on talking & exposing the madness!

ClingFilmApplications · 19/03/2019 18:28

Datun

I wonder if it's the term 'sending messages'. So you have to tag someone?

No, it's:
Any person who sends to another person—
(a)a [letter, electronic communication or article of any description] which conveys—
(i)a message which is indecent or grossly offensive;
(ii)a threat; or
(iii)information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender; or
(b)any [article or electronic communication] which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature

(from the Malicious Communications Act)

Scatobrain · 19/03/2019 18:34

What stops the pretend cunt from being a second arsehole?

ScipioAfricanus · 19/03/2019 18:51

I’m in for a crowdfunder too. So sorry this is happening, Caro.

ClingFilmApplications · 19/03/2019 18:55

Caroline now FEATURED IN THE TELEGRAPH

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 19/03/2019 19:09

Right, so given the following:

Since the row blew up Mrs Farrow said she had been subjected to a barrage of online abuse, including threats to her family.

Referring to that matter the police spokesman added: “We have been made aware that a number of allegations have since been made on Twitter and we will be making contact with the person concerned in relation to these posts.”

Dr Harrop will soon be interviewed under caution? Anyone holding their breath?

NicoAndTheNiners · 19/03/2019 19:12

And isn't it Susie Green's child's friend who is the trans officer for WYP?

I think a complaint about the massive conflict of interest and the fact that Susie seems to be using WYP as her own personal heavies/bullies ought to be made. You can make a complaint about one force to another force can't you? As ask a different one to investigate it all.

NicoAndTheNiners · 19/03/2019 19:13

Oh sorry, it's Surrey police. Still, would not be surprised if WYP aren't fanning this. Maybe a FOI request to WYP might be in order?

Ereshkigal · 19/03/2019 19:14

If you watch the oral evidence to the Trans Equality Enquiry there is one session specifically dealing with hate crime (with Helen Belcher and a legal academic specialising in hate crime). What the TRAs wanted, and still haven't achieved is for "incitement to transphobic hatred" to be made a criminal offence in and of itself in the same way it is now with racism and homophobia. Which would probably include any negative speech about transgender ideology/misgendering/deadnaming/GC women's protests and meetings.

It's worth remembering that lesbian gender critical women can report the frequent threatening homophobia towards them under this "incitement to hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation" law, if they are so inclined.

From Sussex police website:

"It is a crime to intentionally stir up hatred based^ on sexual orientation by^ using threatening words, behaviour or displaying written material (section 29B of the Public Order Act 1986)
.
The relevant threatening conduct could be in words, pictures, videos, and even music. Illegal hate content can include messages calling for violence against LGB people, web pages with images or descriptions of violence against LGB people, or chat forums where people ask other people to commit hate crimes.

There is no specific crime of incitement to transphobic hatred but there are general laws that prevent someone encouraging others to commit crimes, including sections 44 and 45 of the Serious Crime Act 2007. Repeated use of offensive or insulting language can also be treated using the offence of harassment under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. If you become aware of hate material, you can tell the police about it or an LGBT charity.

Carowiththegoodhair · 19/03/2019 19:14

It’s against the law to be distressing and spiteful? So will the troll who said that he used to suck my dick before it was cut off, be charged?

FML. That’s a very peculiar and specific allegation.

Ereshkigal · 19/03/2019 19:15

sussex.police.uk/media/5877/hate-crime-laws.pdf