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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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Pimmsnlemonade · 19/03/2019 00:11

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

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RedToothBrush · 19/03/2019 15:42

So we have two journalists now saying that it's a story that's in the public interest to know about what's happening to Caroline and how it's important that Caroline is allowed to speak freely...

Will be interesting to see if this one even gets to court.

(I don't believe it will fwiw)

OldCrone · 19/03/2019 15:43

Men’s vaginas are an upgrade from women’s.

The person who wrote that clearly thinks that women are just objects with an orifice to fuck. Not actually people at all.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 19/03/2019 15:48

I looked up the Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner earlier, intending to tweet my opinion of this nonsense.

It appears that the Surrey PCCC is the national lead on diversity. You couldn't make this stuff up.

Callmejudith · 19/03/2019 15:56

Absolutely appalled by this. The harassment Caroline has been subjected to has been abhorrent but the police have done fuck all.

hackmum · 19/03/2019 15:59

Huge relief to see Piers Morgan on the case. He has 6.6m followers. The last time he tweeted about something like this (was it the Harry the Owl arrest?), it ended up being covered in the US. So very much look forward to it being covered nationally and internationally. I've noticed in particular the Americans love stories about attacks on freedom of speech in Britain, because it makes them feel good about themselves.

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2019 16:02

I went to school with our local PCC. To say I don't have a high opinion of him at school would be an understatement and a half... To put it mildly. Nothing has changed on this front. He's performing as expected. Not a job I would regard as being filled with quality candidates, just ones who say all the right things to the right people to get the candidency.

Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 16:05

Surrey PCC has said he will investigate this. Maybe he's learnt something from the car crash that was the Humberside PCC's response?

mobile.twitter.com/DavidJMunro/status/1108026601088929792

nauticant · 19/03/2019 16:10

Will be interesting to see if this one even gets to court.

(I don't believe it will fwiw)

Which means that the police will be motivated to coerce Carowiththegoodhair into accepting a caution or they will give her one of these tellings-off that are recorded but count as "non-crimes" that they're keen on these days.

JackyHolyoake · 19/03/2019 16:22

This is Mermaid's [Green's] third attempt to get someone arrested, charged and taken to court:

Posie Parker
Miranda Yardley [via Helen Islan]
Caroline Farrow

Tell me who may be being vexatious?

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 19/03/2019 16:24

Someone tell me how she gets away with doing this to so many people? What the bloody hell is wrong with this woman?

Mner2019 · 19/03/2019 16:25

Bluestitch Someone has already responded to that Surrey PCC tweet mentioning the council tax hikes mentioned upthead re use of resources etc.

RedToothBrush · 19/03/2019 16:26

Which means that the police will be motivated to coerce Carowiththegoodhair into accepting a caution or they will give her one of these tellings-off that are recorded but count as "non-crimes" that they're keen on these days.

Quite.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 19/03/2019 16:30

Which means that the police will be motivated to coerce Carowiththegoodhair into accepting a caution or they will give her one of these tellings-off that are recorded but count as "non-crimes" that they're keen on these days.

As I said before, the next annual report on trans hate crimes and incidents has to be taken with a spade of salt.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 19/03/2019 16:34

Men’s vaginas are an upgrade from women’s.

Sayeth the male supremacist...… and as usual, delusional as fuck.

Mner2019 · 19/03/2019 16:43

Men’s vaginas are an upgrade from women’s.

Do these hormones make them delusional?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 19/03/2019 16:44

Give it 5 years and all these ^ types of men will be living with sex robots with perfect plastic vaginas, no inconvenient menstruation and no ability to answer back.

And women everywhere will breathe a sigh of relief and get on with their lives in peace Grin

MhairiV · 19/03/2019 16:46

"Visually more appealing so like they make it perfect" - oh please, so they mean porn vag, basically?

I'd suggest the perfect vagina is the one which does the job it was designed for without being created from an inside out penis with strips of arm skin, with normal muscles, doesn't require being stuffed with dilators to stop it from closing up again, retains normal sensitivity, isn't located in a weird place and, when called upon to do so can also provide safe passage for a baby. Call me old fashioned.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 19/03/2019 16:46

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets, that made me feel queasy. As a pp said, he literally views women as something to be penetrated. Utterly grim.

Hope you're holding up Caro, I can't imagine the stress. Flowers

GoulashSoup · 19/03/2019 16:53

Another voice of support from me.

I saw this on the Haddock thread and thought it was potentially useful:

*Victoriapestis

what is the ‘reasonable assumption’ rule? Is it in one of the EA 2010 Schedules

It was an amendment to the GRA 2004 granting this exemption specifically to the Church of England and the Church of Wales, inserted in 2005, which still stands (ie has not been affected by either the Civil Partnership Act nor the Same Sex Marriage Act).

Schedule 4 Paragraph 3 states here:

3 After section 5A insert—

“5B Marriages involving person of acquired gender

(1)A clergyman is not obliged to solemnise the marriage of a person if the clergyman reasonably believes that the person’s gender has become the acquired gender under the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

(2)A clerk in Holy Orders of the Church in Wales is not obliged to permit the marriage of a person to be solemnised in the church or chapel of which the clerk is the minister if the clerk reasonably believes that the person’s gender has become the acquired gender under that Act.”

(my emphasis)*

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/03/2019 16:56

This is Mermaid's [Green's] third attempt to get someone arrested, charged and taken to court

That we know of... I suspect there may be more from People less able or willing to speak out Sad

ThePurportedDoctoress · 19/03/2019 17:00

Someone tell me how she gets away with doing this to so many people? What the bloody hell is wrong with this woman?

There are some deranged people in this world who call the police about the most trivial things.
The question is why are the police and CPS on board?

Popchyk · 19/03/2019 17:05

I'm glad that Piers Morgan is interested. Gets the word out.

He should publicly invite both Caroline and Susie Green back on for a follow-up interview.

That puts Susie in a no-win situation, refuse to appear and everyone concludes that she has got something to hide. Which is true.

Go on the show and risk the whole house of cards coming down.

Angryresister · 19/03/2019 17:10

Time to start reporting the vile misogyny that we receive daily to the police. Has anyone done this yet? Oh wait, they already ignore reports of DV, stalking etc so perhaps not much hope there.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 19/03/2019 17:11

I also think that a lot of Piers Morgan's followers are not going to exist inside the woke bubble that TRAs hide in. And they are not going to be backwards in coming forwards in calling out bullshit.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 19/03/2019 17:17

It's a fucking joke, but rage and sadness inducing, rather than funny. Am also more than happy to contribute to funding for legal representation.

I wonder what would happen if every single person who agrees with caro was to post the "offending" tweets (or similarly worded) on their own accounts in solidarity. Would we be all be arrested? I think I would happily take that chance if it would help in any way.

Is saying "I believe men cannot turn into women" enough these days, or does it have to be specific to a particular person being named? There are lots of specific people I would be enthusiastic to name...

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