Opting out of trans and LGB lessons

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My daughter is objecting to her school making her do LGBT sessions this month. She does not want to go to school for that week. She doesn't see why she has to learn about it, believes you can love whoever you want to love, be whoever you want to be but that you can't change sex.
Can see object or rather me on her behalf? Or maybe a better question is how I can get her to make the most of these sessions.

R0wantrees I suspect some people will never see or refuse to see, the safeguarding issues.

DD is still not well (NB I did not say her illness was caused by stress but worse due to stress. We have all been ill this week with a virus) so has missed the week anyway. She might make it in tomorrow depending on how she is. Joy of joys it's comic relief so own clothes and bring a pound and your money will go to some dodgy charities which support trans ideology. Sigh.

Don’t forget all the wasteful plastic tat.

Yes there's that too. We don't do CIN anymore either. I'm giving to local refuges/DV agencies instead. One agency was particularly helpful to me and the lady who runs the helpline hoped I would be able to volunteer but not sure I'm strong enough and unable to at present due to childcare.

I was asked to run it in the office this year. I suggested people didn’t buy crap to contribute to plastic tat mountain, and give their donations directly to local charities close to their hearts.

R0wantrees I suspect some people will never see or refuse to see, the safeguarding issues

It has been a deeply disturbing realisation how many people with considerable influence on children and vulnerable adults clearly do do not understand Safeguarding.

I've worked within Safeguarding frameworks for many years but really believed that the basic principles whch are to do with recognition and mitigation of risks would matter.

The current Historic Child Sex Abuse Inquiry is demonstrating how widespread the systemic failings are within the establishment.

These failings and failures are systemic & ongoing.

Absolutely R0. Completely my thoughts.

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These failings and failures are systemic & ongoing.

People don't see it. Or feel uncomfortable but think they're being un pc or phobic and so ignore gut feelings. The public are being groomed.

People don't see it. Or feel uncomfortable but think they're being un pc or phobic and so ignore gut feelings. The public are being groomed

The dynamics are exactly the same everytime.
Just different scenery.

I'm just curious if anyone knows if children can opt out of any lessons or activities at age 12. Like visiting a religious building or something? Just for cross reference with this kind of thing?

I must admit I don't know but I did think they could opt out of sex education.

If the classes are about respect how about respect for all. I would value lessons in that above 'academic' topics; e.g. getting along working out differences etc, great.

I must admit I don't know but I did think they could opt out of sex education.

They certainly could in primary in the 2000's. I don't think it was changed hence the new RSE. I'm uncertain how mandatory that will be but certainly it was always pitched as child protection as you were teaching the children to be aware of what was right or wrong in terms of privacy and consent. LGB was covered certainly in the packs I used in year 4, simply that some relationships were single sex.

LGBTQ+ is not a compulsory part of the curriculum.

I heard back from school last week about the assembly scheduled for tomorrow.

The idea is that all students feel included and have a sense of pride regardless of their sexuality.

Info comes from staff members themselves and wiki and biographies

Excellent resources there then.

How does trans identify and sexuality get lumped together? Trans is not a sexuality.

I'm not familiar with the Q+ aspect.

Not sure how to respond to the school.

Ask if you can attend? Sitting quietly at the back?

I don't think it's very clear what the format is, are members of staff going to stand up in this assembly and talk about their sexuality or read out things from the internet?

If this is all the school have replied with it sounds deliberately vague to me.

Trans is not a sexuality.

Trans is a belief system. This can either be viewed as a delusion or a quasi religious belief. How else can you view the belief that either you 'are' the opposite sex (delusion), or that you 'should have' been born in an opposite sexed body (religious-style belief in a soul which is separate from the body)?

Sorry, OP, that post probably doesn't help with what you can say to the school, unless you want to start asking them questions about what they think being trans actually means.

Unfortunately I can't attend as have a poorly LO at home tomorrow.
I think it's deliberately vague too.
Dd will roll her eyes a lot I expect if she goes. No objections to LGB, (although why do 12 year olds need to be having sexuality discussions at all)but the T is not a sexuality so why the need to include?

Well dd will be sitting out today. Wikipeadia and biographies ffs.

I’d send her with a voice recorder and get her to record everything and rediscuss with her at home from my perspective

Sorry read your update and she isn’t attending. Good for her!

She's relieved she didn't have to go. It was nothing about trans anyway so wonder why it's lgbtq+ if it's just LGB 🤷🏼‍♀️ I was emailed the content and nothing much to it but I still don't think a whole week should be dedicated to it but IWD only got the day and there was certainly no suffragette flags flying from every building unlike all the pride flags on display

Ask if they’ve checked what they’re going to ‘teach’ the children complies with the law, safeguarding Frameworks and working together principals. Are the governors aware of what they’re going to teach? Are the governors aware that PSHE should be agreed with parents. What is their written policy on all this?