Opting out of trans and LGB lessons

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My daughter is objecting to her school making her do LGBT sessions this month. She does not want to go to school for that week. She doesn't see why she has to learn about it, believes you can love whoever you want to love, be whoever you want to be but that you can't change sex.
Can see object or rather me on her behalf? Or maybe a better question is how I can get her to make the most of these sessions.

Pupils will be excluded if they don't engage appropriately

WTAF is ‘engaging appropriately’?

That sounds like a complaint to the governors reminding them of articles 9 and 10 of HRA.

I’m all for inclusion and teaching children to be kind but indoctrinating them into an ideology is wrong and illegal.

There are no governors. I can't contact anyone about this as I would lose my job.

FTS. I would be asking to meet with the head to enquire as to what The Plan was and where the information was coming from. You may be pleasantly surprised but with stonewall doing the honors, I suspect not.

My DD has been told there is no right to be withdrawn from these classes as it it not sex education. She is doing a block of lessons and says they are all about T and not LGB but described as being LGBT. Pupils will be excluded if they don't engage appropriately

That doesn't sound right. Why would you lose your job? PM me the name of the school and I'll be happy to ask exactly what has been said, especially about exclusion and talk to the head.

Lulapointless

How can there not be governors? Are you not U.K.?

I'm not in England.

I'm not in England

Oh

Where are you? What’s the legal position? Are there parent support groups?

its I don't remember seeing that in the material I saw (but wouldn't be surprised if it's elsewhere).

I'll go back and double check though.

LGBT curriculum is not required by law and your child cannot be forced to attend.

^European Convention on Human Rights Protocol 1 ARTICLE 2 Right to education states:
In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions.^

If you are in the EU that is.

It is also your legal right to withdraw your child from lessons where you wish to do so.

Relevant acts etc include Articles 8 and 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights and, specifically in relation to education,
Section 85(2) of the Equality Act 2010,
Sections 9 and 405 of the Education Act 1996,
Section 28 of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980,
Article 44 of The Education and Libraries (Northern Ireland) Order 1986
Article 2 of European Convention on Human Rights Protocol 1

If the school insist on forcing your child to attend and if your child wanted to go that far you can take them to court. The school/ local authority would be demolished in court.

Thank you ForumGirl that's good to know.
I've emailed the head and will see if they reply and with what. My email was firm and clear that I disagreed with the teachings of stonewall regarding trans and their attitude towards lesbians.

Great. Will be interesting to hear what comes back from the head.

Apologies for the slight highjack. Just interested in what Stonewall says about Lesbians and Trans you disagree with OP? Genuine question.

Ohhhh they don’t like lesbians. They used to - but now they aren’t so keen.

I guess they aren’t ‘pretty and fabulous’ enough for them (and the refusal of the nasty lesbians to sleep with ‘women with a willy’ is the clincher)

But they dooo like lesbians and we must all worship at the alter of lesbian ladydicks.

Sorry I forgot the boy lesbians 👏

Apart from other lesbians with ladydicks of course; they are allowed to just want to sleep with dull lesbians with vaginas who can be called ‘bigots’ and ‘transphobes’ If they don’t agree to sex with ladydicks.

I’m still boggling about a piece I read yesterday of a ‘gay’ man and trans man having a baby (in the traditional way - so your normal man and woman sex stuff). Does not compute...

Hmmm my memory was rusty; I think this was what I saw for SEND pupils and I can't see the PowerPoint, though the lesson seems ok from this (from a talking about Frida way; it could be better as a lesson tbh - why we need two 'dieds' on the vocab list I'm not sure - sloppy proof?)

Apologies I think I did some googling when I read it which may have led me to more info about her.

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/sites/default/files/fridakahloolessonplann-_send.pdf

I don't know why the word lesbian isn't included in the vocabulary though.

I’m just incredulous that it’s a bloody month of something that does not exactly help in GCSE. School is there for you to learn.

OP has said that it's mostly tutor sessions and assemblies. They're not suspending any of their lessons, so suggesting that education will be affected is ridiculous. The DD is in Year 7, so it's not like she's 6 weeks away from her GCSEs. Schools often teach topics in tutor sessions and assemblies that aren't specific skills for GCSE anyway such as information on drugs and alcohol, and sex and relationships. Having some assemblies and pastoral sessions is not got to destroy a year 7's education and contribute to the failure of GCSEs ffs.

OP I would be checking to make sure that they are also focusing on the LGB though.

Or bisexual.

pocketdelia Stonewall no longer accepts that lesbians are females who are exclusively same-sex attracted. They have repeatedly been asked to state that it is not transphobic for a lesbian not to consider a male who identifies as trans as a potential sex partner. So far they have refused.

They also state that disbelief in gender ideology is transphobia. This is disbelief in the idea that we have souls that are somehow sexed that somehow can end up in the wrong sexed body. Which means in consequence that "woman" is not the signifier for an adult human female but for a person who possesses a female soul/inner feminine essence and therefore a male who claims to be a woman is in fact a woman.

And such a male, even when presenting entirely as a man, therefore is entitled to all the rights of female people, including access to female-only spaces.

Any disagreement with this quasi-religious belief system and its misogynistic view of women is considered transphobic by Stone wall. This applies even to the mere suggestion that there may be a conflict between the established, legal rights of female people and the claimed and demanded rights of trans people.

@ForumGirl what lessons am I entitled to remove my child from?

A 6 year old boy at my DC's school decided he was now a girl, mum went along with it and school told all of Y2 that he was now a girl.
I asked the HT why this wasn't on the sex ed curriculum because if had been I'd have told them my DCs weren't to go to those lessons. She said it isn't sex education "and I can just tell your child anything I want to".