Miranda in court

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I didn't realise Miranda Yardley was in court today over alleged transphobic harrasment.

Debbie Hayton
‏ @DebbieHayton
At Basildon Magistrates Court where Miranda Yardley is on trial for transphobic Harassment. The prosecution applied for reporting restrictions to prevent the complainant Helen Islan from being named. The judge has not granted them. So Helen Islan can be named.

Sending Miranda good luck vibes.

I thought I was following Miranda but it looks like I've been muted or blocked

Do you mean on Twitter?

Miranda was chucked off Twitter ages ago.

If Joani is trying to imply Miranda has been snubbed by the widervGC feminist community as we weren't at court that's just bollocks - We didn't know, so how could we be there?

Let's be honest.

If the Yardley/Islan court case wasn't even discussed here on Mumsnet then it clearly wasn't widely known about in wider circles. Cos if it was anywhere near common knowledge, then we'd have been all over it. We're like that.

I hope Miranda comes back on here in the next few days.

I knew that Miranda had a forthcoming court case regarding something he said on Twitter, and I guessed it had a connection to Mermaids. But I didn't know the details, or when it was - I presume the application that the judge considered at the start of the trial prevented anyone from talking about it before a decision was made regarding anonymity and reporting restrictions

No, I don't think she was talking about women in general but specific (unnamed) ones

twitter.com/joaniwalshi/status/1102179011709554688

I don't know any more but I guess I was already a little surprised at the low key reaction from some GC feminists - and I'm talking about after the event. They may have not known about it before but they sure as hell must have known by Friday and yet I haven't seen a huge amount of comment about it. I think that's a little odd when you consider how disastrously this might have ended, and not just for Miranda personally. So what Joani said resonated with me.

Miranda would have had huge support if it was known widely about the court case. I had heard rumours of an upcoming case but nothing concrete about the circumstances or who was involved.

Sadly it's a testament to why TRA's are attempting to silence every aspect of what is happening, so support cannot be freely given. Luckily a sensible judge recognised it for what it is.

There still should have been no case brought even if it had been a non-trans defendant and a trans person alleging victimhood

• there was NO bloody evidence of anything criminal 🤦🏻‍♀️

Similarly with other police complaints against GC feminists:
Refusing to agree with someone's delusions about biology is not a criminal offence

I'm so glad that a brave judge didn't feel obliged to continue this farce

but so sorry that Miranda had to suffer 10 months of stress because of harassment by Mermaids

It is Mermaids who are harassing GC feminists
and it is the TRAs who are threatening and carrying out violence

Yet the police and CPS go after the GC feminists

The vast majority of the public don't agree with this crazy ideology once they realise the full implications of losing single sex spaces

• and the waste of public money in pursuing ridiculous complaints when they see that the police & CPS don't have the resources to tackle real crimes.

Yet, many among our ruling classes and our institutions have bought into the absurd delusion that feelings change biology and that anyone expressing disagreement should be criminalised.

It does explain how the country is in such a mess, when those running it are such fools.

Joani Walsh
‏ @joaniwalshi
It looks like there was a deliberate and concerted effort to take Miranda Yardley out of this debate. Before the CPS made the decision to prosecute he received a letter threatening him from Mishcon de Reya - it looks like private action would have taken place if not state.

The letter from the solicitors that Miranda got seemed very familiar...

Joani "It looks like there was a deliberate and concerted effort to take Miranda Yardley out of this debate. Before the CPS made the decision to prosecute he received a letter threatening him from Mishcon de Reya - it looks like private action would have taken place if not state."

Mishcon de Reya? Not cheap. And Helen tries to blame the CPS for taking her seriously? She has a point , but ordinary people who make daft complaints to the police without thinking don't tend to use expensive lawyers just in case.
Who paid for this shit?

I saw some very derogatory comments made about MY on PP’s FB page. It wasn’t a poster I recognised though. So there are clearly some tensions I’m unaware of.

I’m not reposting the allegations as I’ve always liked Miranda and think he’s genuinely motivated by wanting to protect children.

I hope Miranda is being well supported in RL.

Can they be forced to tell who is footing the bills? Aren’t they also representing a person who has been on gardening leave for months for posting some unprofessional photos?

It's no secret that GC people don't all get along and that's fine - there's no reason why they should. I just like to think they would see beyond their own friendship groups when there's something as big as this at stake. Again I'm talking about reactions after the event, not before.

I can't remember which lawyer Jess Bradley hired but it was a heavyweight and I do remember there was much discussion as to how they could afford them.

Floisme I was about to point out that it was Miscon de Reya that Bradley claimed to have engaged (I'm pretty sure I'm remembering that correctly). As others have pointed out, an extremely expensive firm for a penniless student (though possible they may be doing it pro bono.)

Carter-Ruck were the expensive lawyers working for Bradley.

Had this hit twitter yet?

My mistake. (Wonder where I'm remembering Mischon de Reya from - I'm sure they popped up in connection with one of these cases.)

They have popped up somewhere.

I’d assumed that the low profile of MY was necessary for legal reasons. MY posts here, so why no thread in advance of this coming to court?

Miranda writes:
"On 10 August last year, I received from Islan’s solicitors Mishcon de Reya a three page legal letter threatening me with a High Court injunction, action for defamation and a costs order. This letter was I believe funded by the Mishcon de Reya ‘Pink Law‘ initiative, so again Islan benefitted from LGBT without herself being a part of this world."

So Mischon de Reya's Pink Law initiative may have been used to go after a transsexual who doesn't agree with the gender ideology currently being pushed by Mermaids, Stonewall and others. Are they mad?

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mermaidsuk.org.uk/assets/media/Internal%20Legal%20Support%20Mermaids%202018.pdf

Fermats - Mishcon de Reya represented Margaret Hodge when the Labour Party tried to suspend her for criticising Corbyn (what happened in that case, I wonder? Has it been concluded?)

For the record, BTW, I do not object to any law firm taking instruction from TRAs. The law is there for everyone, and it would be wrong for law firms to refuse clients on either side based on their political beliefs, if they thought those prospective clients had a case in law.

What does puzzle me is where the money is coming from - as the old adage has it, "The law is open to everyone... just like the Savoy Grill."

I think Joani is wrong. Miranda chose to keep this case very quiet. Every GC feminist I know supports her, just as we supported Linda Bellos and Venice Allan.