So it’s happened...

[Beerincomechampagnetastes]

I knew it would and I’ve been dreading how I would deal with it.
My dd has been joined in her female boarding house by a young man called George.
George up until last term was a female.
I’m concerned for George and the pupils are all lovely and he’s getting a lot of support.
But I’m confused as to why he’s in the female boarding house?
Is this normal practice for schools?

No we don't calvin
But if the kids are being told to pretend he's a boy and use he /him

Its gone to far

Anyway OP, as far as your daugher goes, it is hard to say where things will go.

I have noticed young people have a narrative that older people don't remember what it is like to be young, and it is simply not true. And one thing that is very true about being young is that there are the things adults will tell you to do and think and there is what you and your friends decide on what to do and think in your privately created social circles, and there is very little the adults can do to penetrate that. From this comes situations like ROGD, the rapid spread of ED behaviors, and other things. The girls could decide collectively they disagree with George or that they like George and it will have little to do with what the adults tell them to do or think.

But if the kids are being told to pretend he's a boy and use he /him

Where does it say that the kids are being told to pretend that he's a boy? For all you know, the kids have all been told that George is a trans boy. That is the truth. No one is lying or pretending.

Very clearly the issue is not about using changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards, refuges as we keep being told because this child is doing exactly what you all want. The issue simply is that you don't accept anyone being trans.

It's not about pronouns either because no one has to call anyone he/she. You can use their name so problem solved.

RiverTam

I've just copied this from an explanation of the Equality Act

In the Equality Act it is known as gender reassignment. All transsexual people share the common characteristic of gender reassignment.

To be protected from gender reassignment discrimination, you do not need to have undergone any specific treatment or surgery to change from your birth sex to your preferred gender. This is because changing your physiological or other gender attributes is a personal process rather than a medical one.

You can be at any stage in the transition process – from proposing to reassign your gender, to undergoing a process to reassign your gender, or having completed it.

I think that "George" would be included in this description and therefore protected by the Equality Act.

The children HAVE been told to call George his new male name. They have been asked to use his preferred pronouns he / him.

I stated this upthread.

weed this thread is not about what you or calv have tried to make it.

You’ve continually attempted to derail the discussion and repeatedly made claims that are untrue.

I don’t find either of your contribution helpful, interesting or wanted.
You have added absolutely zero value to our discussion.

But everyone keeps saying that a name is just a name.

That's not the same as saying they are male.

And no one has to use pronouns. You just don't.

And what is this thread about?

The question you ask in your OP is

But I’m confused as to why he’s in the female boarding house?

That says it all. Where do you propose he goes?

I don’t blame young people feeling oppressed by womanhood and wanting to escape it

Young GIRLS OR WOMEN! The sex that is oppressed by womanhood.

Men, boys or those of the male sex that identity as women are not oppressed by womanhood.

I don’t want George to go anywhere. I’ve stated that repeatedly.... you however

You have made your point over and over again. I have no idea why you’re still here 🤷‍♀️

I don’t blame young people feeling oppressed by womanhood and wanting to escape it

Yeah my bad, that’s because I had originally wrote ‘oppressed by gender roles’ but then changed it, I should have changed people to women and girls too.

Beerincomechampagnetastes

But your question in your OP is

But I’m confused as to why he’s in the female boarding house?

So how can you say you don't want him to go anywhere? Why are you confused that he is in the female boarding house? Where else would he be?

This is not the weet show.
You have dominated and demanded and derailed.
I’ve engaged with you and acknowledged you.
This is the last time.

You’ve prevented open and informative discussions that initially were very helpful to me. I started the thread for advice and guidance. You’ve expressed your opinion over and over again.
I do not agree with your opinion of me or your interpretation of my motives, although I accept your right to voice your thoughts.
Now please move along so that I can continue the discussion with other posters - your points and opinions will remain for all to read you do not have to continue monopolising the conversation by repeating them.

Hopefully he will feel safe and happy in the boarding house.

It's confusing because given the current situation if a school or establishment has gone as far as facilitating makes and pronouns and telling the kids a girl is now a boy , then it's odd they didn't put George in with the boys.

It is of course however bloody good they didn't and I'm pleased to see that privacy dignity and safety have been deemed important for George and the boys ( who I'm sure would he uncomfortable sharing with a biological girl ) .

It does raise the question as to whether they would keep a trans girl in with the boys aswell. Or whether that would result in a different outcome.

Everything you said gerry

Beerincomechampagnetastes

I shall consider myself told and leave you to your echo chamber.

For me the problem lies in that George is being recorded as a boy, if George can attend the girls boarding school why can’t any boy. The idea that you identify should be that you are treated in the same way as the gender you identify with. George is not being treated as a boy, the school whilst being kind are also making it clear that they see George’s anatomy as female and all the pronouns does not change the fact that they view George as a girl.

George is not being treated as a boy, the school whilst being kind are also making it clear that they see George’s anatomy as female and all the pronouns does not change the fact that they view George as a girl.

Why is that a problem? I thought that was what we wanted?

Call yourself what you like but your sex can’t change and we will keep segregation based on sex.

Almost calvin
Almost there

Wear what you like, do what you like, be whatever you want to be and don't think you have to be someone else to do it.

Exactly Gerry

^Almost calvin
Almost there

Wear what you like, do what you like, be whatever you want to be and don't think you have to be someone else to do it.^

Well yes, this would be the ideal.
But it’s obviously not the case for some people so we need to work out how to treat those people.

Look I’ve been on this board for years with different names, I know the arguments, I agree with you.

But it’s a one thing arguing about ideology and another working out how in practise to actually deal with young people with gender dysphoria.

The nhs , the tavistock clinic recommend a watchful waiting approach.

This immediate affirmation is the American approach, and this is what is being taught in schools and to parents via certain outlets run by people who don't have medical training.

I don’t think we should do immediate affirmation, watch and wait is a sensible approach.

But we have no idea about the back story of ‘George’ they could have been watching and waiting and decided this was the best course of action.

Affirmation at 13 is not watching and waiting.

Its true we don't know the full back story.

However I don't think it's unreasonable to be concerned that the other children are being asked to forgo their beliefs and take on someome else's.

Other people won't have a problem. But personally I would he concerned about the social contagion aspect . The possibility of the difference In treatment that other kids would pick up on. In a " brave and stunning " special treatment sense. Not adaptations to accommodate illness and disability etc sense.

I personally would struggle with being a part of something and asking my kids to he a part of something that I didn't believe in and had alot of concerns about the future for the child in.

That is not to be confused with assuming I would be mean to or tolerate bullying towards the child

I'm glad George can stay where they are safe and the children are not being forced to compromise their boundries.

I do think something purely reliant on others playing along is not a good foundation for helping a chikd