A reminder: What we did was brilliant. Is brilliant.

[lisamuggeridge]

What we did was amazing. We pulled the GUardian, Parliament, the House of Lords, the media, out of a position they were determined to have, we changed the debate, we showed women were a political force, we acted, all over the country we acted. In different ways. We were bound by the GRA review and as soon as that was done it was evident that power relations had recreated within a social movement. Yes some people by reflex did things that they would always have done. Now we get to relearn and renegotiate power relations by saying we dont play the way media tribalists did. Whatever fall outs there have been were always going to hapen but we still did that. Thats why htis board is permanently monitored by nutcases and acually the power we demonstrated is directly at the root of the toxic fallouts and is a mark of success in itself. Political spectrum reforming within this movement is alright, but it probably pays to remember how amazing what we achieved was and letting that guide what we can achieve., We changed the conversation we can keep doing that. Easily. By having the conversation we want and not bowing to social media tribalism that hides all sorts of nasties and existing political orgs. And learning in a way they cant.

I'm a WBH exclusionary feminist and I make no apologies for it.

Yes, but you love me despite everything, don't you? Eh? Eh?

Love the sinner, hate the sin!

Have you been on Lisa's blogs or Youtube channel lately, Ineedacupofteadesperately? You've got all the evidence you need over there. Try taking a look.

Oh god

on and on they go

nothing interesting to say about - yanno- actual feminist stuff (some very interesting threads on the board atm). just 'here are the things in my head. you must all listen and validate and agree and then grab a pitch fork and join me, if you don't you're an evil mob (or something)'

let's start again geeewhizz. what;s your view on that poor 12 year old rape victim from NI that had to come to the mainland to get an abortion?

how about the recent anaylsis in the guardian that women wear trousers to signify that they don't want to be objectified

there's loads of things we could talk about apart from your obsessive compulsion to bad mouth other women

If you're not interested in women tearing each other down, BernardBlacksWineIcelolly, why are you protecting the OP who seems to do nothing but? That you don't address that comment to the OP but you do to Politely is, as the OP seems fond of saying, noted.

Hey, Politelygiveszerofucks, do you fancy joining me in the smoking room with the chaps for some intelligent debate while the ladies chat about cupcakes?

Love the sinner, hate the sin!

I wish we could do polls.

A: Ariston and on and on and

B: Duracell bunnies

And now Lisa has written another lengthy blog post in response to this thread accusing Joani Walsh of being a fascist and exploiting child rape.

Full disclosure. I am not Joani Walsh but I cannot imagine how it must feel to have someone insistently writing this stuff about you, who then gets feted with a free pass and told how wonderful she is on MN.

JW is under siege by a large portion of Haddock because she gets the stories in the mainstream media and Lisa writes a post accusing her of fascism?

Yeah woot, we did it wonderful wimmin.

Make mine a 99.

Hmmm, BernardBlacksWineIcelolly. So on top of all this gaslighting, the deflection, the ad homming, the silencing, the ganging up on the new girls we now have whataboutery... Noted, I think the OP would say.

Interesting to see sexism on the FWR board tonight.

Can we talk about how amazing we all are again. This derailing attempt is boring the arse off me.

It must be quite frustrating when you're hoping for an angry mob and get a bunch of women affectionately taking the piss out of each other's breakfast choices instead.

God help us, geeewhizz, you don't give up, will you?

By your logic, the world must be flat because Galileo put his daughter in a convent.

get a bunch of women affectionately taking the piss out of each other's breakfast choices instead

When they do that, you call them ladies and tell them that only the chaps are worth talking to.

Who does that remind you of, I wonder?

Interesting to see sexism on the FWR board tonight

isn't it just

my pitchfork arm is tired. I'm resting it up at the moment, sorry.

Can we talk about how amazing we all are again. This derailing attempt is boring the arse off me.

HamiltonCork did you see the Dunstable Times article about the Resisters night of action?

Dunstable Today article,
'Dunstable’s royal statue dressed up for gender battle #WomenStandUp'

(extract)
"Statues of women across the UK, including Bedfordshire, now wear t-shirts stating the dictionary definition of woman: Adult Human Female. The Statues include Queen Eleanor in Dunstable and the Sea Scout statue on the Upper Lea Valley Walk near Luton, Sappho of Lesbos, in Howard Gardens in Letchworth, the “Tete a Tete” statue in Harpenden (Church Green), as well as statues in London, Manchester, Cambridge, Birmingham, Brighton and many other locations.

ReSisters United members say they are reclaiming the definition of women as “adult human females”.

Debate has swirled around the use of this definition in recent months, with some people claiming people with male bodies, including those who have had no surgery or any medical treatment are women, and should be able to access women’s single sex services such as changing rooms, women’s refuges, dormitories, single sex hospital wards and women’s prisons, as well as being able to compete against women in sports, and join associations such as the Girl Guides.

Organisations such as the Youth Hostel Association allow males to access female dormitories and showers as long as they self-declare their gender identity of “woman”.

Public bodies, government documents and lobbying groups are also removing the word “woman” to be replaced with phrases such as “menstruators”, “cervix havers” and “chest feeders”. ReSisters United reported that in recent years, women who continue to affirm that only women are female have been bullied, censored, assaulted and silenced. Last September, Leeds City Council cancelled a meeting room that women had booked to hold a public meeting to discuss proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act." (continues)

www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/news/dunstable-s-royal-statue-dressed-up-for-gender-battle-womenstandup-1-8786931

The photographs of dressed statues have been amazing:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3492065-ReSisters-standing-up-for-adult-human-females-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

Thanks Rosen. That’s cheered me up.

Can we talk about how amazing we all are again

yes let's.

I stood in the street in a freezing market town and talked to the general public and persuaded them to respond to a government consultation

1. I hate the public
2. consultations are boring

I'm giving myself a little pat on the back right now

anyone else feel like a bit of self praise?

*Rowan (stupid phone)

Thanks for alerting everyone to that, Politely. So here we have a woman continuing to tear down other women, popping over to Mumsnet to declare 'we did it' and being supported and protected by yet more women who participate in the demonisation, defamation and destruction of women while declaring we've all in it tugevvah.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly, you will now surely have to address yourself to the OP being as you don't like seeing women tearing each other down and it looks like your idol is doing it with glee to someone whose reputation is surely required to carry on representing you all. Same to you, Ineedacupofteadesperately. You now have the evidence you require.

Thanks Rosen. That’s cheered me up

Its a great thread, very cheering!

Geee and Politely how about you set up a post where you can chat to each other and any other chaps that want to join Geee

LangCleg as always fab post pages ago on this thread your comments are always good value

I've really enjoyed seeing all the pictures today, great idea got people talking. Peaceful creative protest. Thank-you for getting up early and going out in the cold on our behalf.

I'm loving all the new ReSisters groups popping up on twitter as well.

And wondering about venturing out into the cold to get an emergency kit Kat from the car, no fancy colours but it is chunky [humm]

That dunstable today article is excellent. Surely will peaktrans anyone who reads it.

When they do that, you call them ladies and tell them that only the chaps are worth talking to.

Silly little ladies with their cupcakes (oddly American choice there) and their not wanting to be your own private army.