Jean Hatchet, new blog post

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jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-up-for-women.html

This blog post from Jean is eye-opening. Working alongside anti-abortion, hard right groups undermines decades of feminism.

Shame on Posie. I agree with Jean, I will also be sitting down for women.

I will apologise for my typo.

Now I'm done. This needs to end.

Hi Jean! Lovely to see you, too! Same thanks from me as to Venice for everything you do.

I love both you women. I understand there are painful differences between you at the moment. I also understand that there are many people who seek to exploit that to the detriment of women and girls. I hope you can all reconcile at some point but I do also think it's not the end of the world if you don't. We need both of you and we need everyone else involved and I don't care to adjudicate between any women working for women as best they can and as they see fit.

So I'm continuing on the Switzerland path. Which involves supporting the work both of you do.

I thought it was very strange that other feminists turned up to stick the boot into Posie and VA & JL in a way that seemed they were almost deliberately trying to scupper some really important work. It was strange and disappointing, but hey ho, they are free to do it and have it on their own consciences.

Really, could you be any more patronising? These academic feminists have worked extremely hard and persistently to keep the tone of debate civil and to root their critiques of trans ideology within their areas of expertise. They know that they will be entirely discredited if they do not. This approach has yielded concrete results, following invitations to speak to MSPs and the House of Lords. I think we should be thanking them profusely for that and acknowledge that they have done “important work”. For their pains they have also had to endure a constant barrage of abuse, not just on Twitter, but in their places of work. How do you imagine it feels to come into work to find that someone has pissed on your door or to have your students shouting at you that you deserve to be raped or to have your employer put in place security measures to protect you from other people in your workplace?

It’s very easy to sit on here and snipe at people for being “paranoid and disproportionate”, but the reality is that there are very few people who would put themselves in Rosa Fredman’s position. My academic colleagues are all gender critical but are too terrified to say anything publicly because they know exactly what they’d expose themselves to.

Now I'm done. This needs to end.

Thanks for turning up Jean I don't want to talk like you aren't here or say anything that will pull you back to comment since I know that's not what you want to do.

You are amazing and inspirational. I wasn't keen on the timing of your blog post and felt you could have written it and waited for a less damaging time to publish it, but what's done is done. Nonetheless, quite a lot of damage control and clean up operation is necessary as a result.

I hope you can focus on your wellbeing and your work for women's rights and I hope now that views have had an airing there's a chance to work towards cooperation again.

These academic feminists have worked extremely hard and persistently to keep the tone of debate civil

But they failed at this point.

@WeRiseUp

I am currently unable to defend myself. I can't say a word in my defence without putting myself and my family at risk. People will have to take my word for that. In time I will be able to I hope.

I think each and every woman who has stuck their heads above the parapet and spoken their truth is to be admired.

Jean, I don't know you and suspect on many issues we would not have much in common, but thank you, and take care.

It’s very easy to sit on here and snipe at people for being “paranoid and disproportionate”, but the reality is that there are very few people who would put themselves in Rosa Fredman’s position.

I am aware that drradfem has shown great fortitude in speaking the truth within the labour party, getting booted out, putting on meetings where no one else did, getting hideous abuse, being put up in the dock on spurious charges, getting meetings in the House of Commons, etc, etc, etc.

I am aware Posie Parker has shown immense courage in the face of police harassment, being doxxed, having her family threatened, she has taken bold action and created powerful and amazing actions, brought people together, whilst facing constant abuse.

I am aware that Julia Long has been a courageous trailblazer, taking action and putting herself in the face of hostile people to raise awareness while all the other feminists were still doing the wokey-fucking-cokey, she has has her place of work contacted to try to get her to lose her job, she has been standing up for lesbianism and going out there, standing and singing and chanting in all fucking weathers.

I really doubt many people come close to having the guts and determination of these women. Perhaps these brave academics should show a bit of empathy and a little less fucking sniping too.

Also Switzerland.

I love you all - and I thank you all for the hard work you have done, and for putting your heads above the parapet. You are braver women than me.

We are all for women, the XX kind, but I guess we won't always agree x

I’m Switzerland too

I support and am thankful for all the brave women doing their best to protect women’s privacy, dignity and safety

wokey-fucking-cokey

I am so stealing that!

Perhaps these brave academics should show a bit of empathy and a little less fucking sniping too.

I don’t think we’re going to see eye-to-eye on this, unfortunately. I can only assume from your posts that you are doing great things for this cause and putting yourself at daily personal risk, given that you feel the need to tear Rosa Freedman apart. As for empathy, a bit of that on your part for someone who is Jewish seeing PP hug a holocaust denier wouldn’t go amiss either, rather than calling her a “nutjob” for being upset by this.

LangCleg I stole it from someone else and shamefully I can't recall who I nicked it from!

Posie didn't hug a holocaust survivor ffs! A man came up to her, grabbed her, took a selfie and posted it on his twitter. I'm also from a Jewish family, my grandparents fled the pogroms, but what I find offensive in all of this is how feminists are blaming Posie for being a victim of this horrible man.

given that you feel the need to tear Rosa Freedman apart.
I don't think I am tearing her apart. She is currently behaving like someone who has lost the plot, which is understandable, considering what a treacherous hall of mirrors the world of social media, academia and student activism is at the moment.
As for empathy, a bit of that on your part for someone who is Jewish seeing PP hug a holocaust denier wouldn’t go amiss either
Posie parker did not 'hug' the dude. That's a lie. Freedman should not be telling lies like that. Also I didn't see the evidence he is a holocaust denier. There was a couple of tweets about 'muslims' that I didn't really understand out of context that she screencapped, which didn't actually back up what she said.
rather than calling her a “nutjob” for being upset by this.
I think it is completely reasonable to be upset to see someone knowingly hugging a holocaust denier. I don't think it is reasonable to a) lie and say it was a hug b) presume she knew the man's politics c) publish this on social media rather before thinking it through d) without any supporting evidence. It looks unhinged. Sorry. But it does.

What's wrong with hugging a holocaust survivor anyway?

I'm pretty sure the bloke who accosted Posie was a holocaust Denier not survivor
As others have said thanks for all that you do. I'm going with Lang Cleg,
I'm Switzerland too

I see women who have really difficult and complicated stuff going on in their lives expending time and energy making each other's lives more difficult and complicated

I wish it would stop

If the TRAs are swooping, and there is and was unhelpful chattering because of the connection between to the right, however significant that is or isn't... surely the blame lies with those who were involved... not with the person who chose not to get involved! Or as Jean put it on the blog post:

"I think the women who should be held responsible for bringing the work of women into disrepute or "handing it to trans activists on a plate" is not the woman who didn't go along with it ... but the ones who did."

Anyway I'm conscious that any comments are part of the larger problem of continuing to stir things up so I'll pipe down. I respect our differences and really hope we can get back to "tending our own gardens"

I don't really understand what you are saying Connieston.

We all have a limited amount of energy and resources.

I'm ready to use mine in the fight against self id and the transing of children.

Hahahaha denier not survivor... whoops

What this is telling me is that the stress really is starting to show on some of the most open and brave women who are putting their heads above the parapet.

I wish there was some psychic vitamin shots and r&r we could could give them all. It is so hard to hold on to yourself under so much pressure.