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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jean Hatchet, new blog post

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SugarPlumFairy99 · 25/01/2019 14:38

jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-up-for-women.html

This blog post from Jean is eye-opening. Working alongside anti-abortion, hard right groups undermines decades of feminism.

Shame on Posie. I agree with Jean, I will also be sitting down for women.

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VonFiddament · 28/01/2019 16:05

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 28/01/2019 16:08

Reported von

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 16:09

Speaking of biscuits, I would love a crunchy ginger cookie recipe. Doesn’t have to be vegan as I can play around with substitutes. Anyone?

( I’ve reported, ignore )

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 28/01/2019 16:11

Plopping gutless wonder Angry

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 16:56

from current thread collecting photos of the statues wearing 'woman=adult human females,

Doobigetta (the OP) wrote
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"Posie has been very clear that she speaks for nobody but herself. I started this thread because I think the work done last night was brilliant, and should be shared. I don’t actually speak for anybody but myself either. I think the ReSisters, SFW and Posie Parker and Jean Hatchet are all amazing. I think Lisa Muggeridge is too. And I think it’s educational for the TRAs to know that Women are not a Borg collective with A Leader. But going on about our differences when we could be celebrating our successes is self-defeating, imo. Not to mention fitting neatly into the stereotypes it would be nice to leave behind."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3492065-ReSisters-standing-up-for-adult-human-females-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ?pg=4]]

Bubonicpanic · 28/01/2019 17:08

The event this is apparantly the eye of the storm is about to start. It has been organised by parents or children affected by ROGD.

Tackytriceratops · 28/01/2019 17:16

Latest message from posie:

www.facebook.com/theposieparker/videos/2369584096494890/

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 28/01/2019 17:25

Im a bit fragile today and now im welling

Very emotional subject, Flowers to those struggling with this

Although flowers are next to fucking useless

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 28/01/2019 17:41

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LangCleg · 28/01/2019 17:41

Gosh. I did not expect to see Posie cry.

DubBeGoodToMe · 28/01/2019 17:47

V moving video.

As a flippant aside, Posie’s voice (and face) really reminds me of Olivia Coleman’s, who would be perfect casting to play Posie in a tv dramatisation of this.

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 17:48

Oh Posie Flowers I am so sad to hear about those stories. I want to thank Posie for doing what she is doing. You’ve done so much good work and I absolutely support your decision to go there. I hope that you haven’t been upset at the criticism. Those poor children... I really am so exasperated. What the fuck is happening.

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 17:49

I watched the meeting yesterday when a young woman spoke out about her experience of being a lesbian within the LGBT+ community, the devastating impact on her as she was coerced to follow medical transition and then her ostracision when she detrasitioned.

It was so powerful and moving to hear.

I think there needs to be new threads so that these important words of parents and young people can be heard.

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 17:49

Maybe now people will have a better understanding of why we can't do this without organisations like the heritage foundation. This is so much bigger than toilets and changing rooms and women only spaces.

I really hope so. This is more important at the moment. We have to work together.

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 17:50

Can Posies video be used in a new thread?

BeyondShattered · 28/01/2019 17:54

Yeah I already cried at the young lesbian woman yesterday, and now I've cried at Posie. Think I may be hormonal? Or it's actually fucking upsetting...

R0wantrees · 28/01/2019 17:59

This is the link to the meeting that Posie is attending. There are important and powerful speeches which are worth listening to:

www.heritage.org/event/the-inequality-the-equality-act-concerns-the-left

AnneHutchinson · 28/01/2019 18:00

Thank you, Posie, for coming to America and for standing in the fire.

I will also add, as an American, that the right-left split in America at ground-level is not nearly as clear cut as the media portrays it, nor are the definitions of "left" and "right" all that stable.

People are painting with brush strokes far too broad and from too great a distance.

Oxytocindeficient · 28/01/2019 18:07

It’s just fucking upsetting. I have a teenage autistic child. God I can’t bear thinking about it... those poor girls...the Mums having to stand by and watch their daughters be mutilated... this is insanity beyond anything I’ve ever seen

OrchidInTheSun · 28/01/2019 18:16

AnneHutchison "People are painting with brush strokes far too broad and from too great a distance."

Yes, I think a lot of people have been guilty of this. You can't cookie cutter politics from one country to another - it is rarely that simple.

Vixxxy · 28/01/2019 18:21

Sorry to hear you felt the need to delete your twitter Jean.

FlyingOink · 28/01/2019 18:41

People are painting with brush strokes far too broad and from too great a distance.
Agreed. The economic policies of say, the Labour Party and the Democratic Party are in no way similar, for example.

AnneHutchinson · 28/01/2019 18:45

Orchid

Yes, but I think the US national media do this too, portraying politics as a team sport, with the presudential election the Super Bowl. Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is drawing record-breaking crowds in Republican states. I’m quite far left; my cousins are quite far right; we disagree on many issues. But there ARE issues we do agree on. For instance, they support Medicare for All, as do 60% of Republican voters but only a minority of Democratic politicians. They want to bring the troops home, a position supported by most Americans and nearly no American politician. Mostly, as is true of the bottom 80% of the country, they’d like jobs that paid enough that they didn’t have to work 60 hour weeks, in one job or two, year round. Politicians from both parties talk a good game there but do nothing.

At some point, some American politician is going to realize that if the US can print money to bail out banks and to go to war, it can print money to put people to work. Who knows what party that politician will be from? Whoever it is will be defying Wall Street’s advantage as money creators (via credit) and, if that person can withstand the ensuing firestorm of media personal attacks, will win it all, hands down.

OrchidInTheSun · 28/01/2019 19:10

Yes, I'm sure that's true. Because you have a two party system there's a lot more nuance. Plus you're working within the context of a different legal and constitutional system, they're not very comparable.

I have a very dear life long Democrat lesbian friend who supports the death penalty.

That's just unthinkable in the U.K.