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School girls gaslit en masse after encountering 'naked man' in swimming pool shower

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QuietContraryMary · 25/01/2019 11:47

www.kesq.com/news/female-water-polo-players-confronted-by-naked-man-at-palm-springs-swim-center/987276858

The girls found a naked man in the women's shower, which they objected to, describing him as a 'predator'.

The police investigated and said that actually, sorry girls, he's not a man, she's a woman, so STFU, basically.

eu.desertsun.com/story/news/2019/01/24/pool-getting-unisex-shower-formal-policy-after-teens-encounter-trans-woman/2670287002/

It does beg the question of what is the appropriate response when a girl finds a naked man in the changing room, as there doesn't seem to be any possible way to distinguish a 'naked man' from a 'transwoman', nor indeed whether it is safe to be around that person's penis (common sense and practice for basically the entire world's population except those gaslit by TRAs says 'no')

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Racecardriver · 25/01/2019 12:57

Maybe gym faculties should be segregated into the penis room and the vulva room?

ChewyLouie · 25/01/2019 13:00

No need to hide out in the woods with a dirty old mac anymore is there? Thing is, until predators get bored of the accessibility and hark back to the golden days of subterfuge, it’s young girls like this who will pay the price of state endorsed kink.

GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 13:03

chewy

I'm sure I read on here and I'm happy to be corrected, that after all the fuss American teenager lila Perry went through to gain access to the girls changing facilities, they ended up disappointed because it wasn't sone porno fantasy lesbian fest. .

These things aren't as much fun when it's legal..

JudgeRulesNutterButter · 25/01/2019 13:04

What possible good intentioned motivation can any penis-endowed person have for doing this?

BettyDuMonde · 25/01/2019 13:09

From the article Palm Springs previously adopted a transgender restroom law in July 2016, approving an ordinance to convert all single-stall restrooms in public buildings within the city into gender-neutral family restrooms

So it seems like local politicians are being sensible - multi stalled toilets have remained single sex, not that that means much if TWAW but at least they haven’t gone ‘fuck it’ and made it an official free for all.

^ That I think this shows how low my expectations have fallen in regards to politicians being sensible.
Of course, the gaps under many cubicles in the US are massive, leaving you exposed pretty much up to the knee while sitting down on the loo, showing off your knickers round your ankles. I’ve actually turned on my heel and walked back out of a toilet in a US megastore, can’t remember if it was Walmart or Kmart, thinking ‘I’m just too British for this’.

MagicMix · 25/01/2019 13:19

This is exactly the problem with "well in the unlikely event a creep takes advantage of the massive gaping safeguarding loopholes we aim to create, you ladies can just call the police!"

Yeah, this was always a steaming pile of bullshit and they knew it. Women cannot trust the police or the state to protect us from male violence. I mean, rape is practically legal. We will certainly have no legal recourse to protect us from sexual harassment and voyeurism in intimate spaces as long as there is considered to be a grey area where some males are 'legitimately' allowed into women's single-sex spaces and some apparently aren't.

Sarahjconnor · 25/01/2019 13:21

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Bowlofbabelfish · 25/01/2019 13:22

when will it end?

When it impacts men.

ZigZagZebras · 25/01/2019 13:22

If I was getting changed (as a female!) I would cover up if a teenager walked in and apologise if they showed or voiced discomfort, as surely the majority of people would. It says a lot that this man's response was instead justifying why he should be allowed to expose himself to them.

GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 13:28

It's only gonna affect men when their dds come home having been assulted.

But when their friemds then blame the ad for her clothing etc they will realise that it's too late. They let it happen.

For about 2 seconds til someone reminds them equality is what feminists wanted and it's our fault they tuned out cos women are just hysterical and Namalt

hackmum · 25/01/2019 13:33

"The incident underscores concerns that often arise among members of the transgender community. Rarely do they use public showers because they want to avoid harassment."

Oh, the poor dears. Never mind the teenage girls who are being flashed at, it's all about the poor sexual predator trans person.

ChewyLouie · 25/01/2019 13:38

You’re right, there is no recourse for girls and women when female spaces are lovingly gift wrapped with a sparkly bow and handed over to all males. Pat on the back for the brave TW and re-education for the girls, the world had truly gone mad.

Bowlofbabelfish · 25/01/2019 13:40

Rarely do they use public showers because they want to avoid harassment."

But the girls aren’t harassing them. A girl pointing out there’s a man in the shower is not harassment.

Harassment would be a transwoman using the men’s showers and being verbally or physically abused. In which case - the answer is for men to be more accepting of gender non conforming men.

Ereshkigal · 25/01/2019 13:42

I think it's more that this is exactly how TRAs frame it, having argued this with many of them.

Eliza9917 · 25/01/2019 13:53

andyoldlabour Fri 25-Jan-19 12:13:39
I have just made a comment, lets see if they let it stand.

"If it is a question about making people feel comfortable, then how about making the situation comfortable for women and girls first, by not letting male bodied people use ther showering facilities."

Or why don't they address the problem of why these people don't feel comfortable changing in the mens' changing rooms. They have penis's, they should change in there.

If they feel threatened because they are dressed up as women, then they need to address the men's behaviour.

Hmm
CatholicDadof2 · 25/01/2019 13:58

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/01/2019 15:15

do none of our frequent genderist visitors feel like stepping in and explaining why this is OK?

come on guys! I know you're lurking there. we're all just dying to be educated about why we don't need to bother worrying about this

OvaHere · 25/01/2019 15:25

When I was teen there was a man that used to lurk in a shaded part of a popular route home from school in order to show his dick to teenage girls.

How gutted he must be that he was born in the wrong era because now all they have to do is show up to school swim lessons and the cops will absolve them.

GrinitchSpinach · 25/01/2019 15:28

It's about dominance. Marking territory. Knowing that they can walk around with their tackle out in front of women and girls, knowing that it makes them uncomfortable and afraid must be like a drug to them. We'll see these stories more and more, along with virtue signallers saying how they showered next to a TW and it was like a super-awesome experience.

Spot on, CatholicDadof2.

Sarahjconnor · 25/01/2019 15:32

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andyoldlabour · 25/01/2019 15:43

"If they feel threatened because they are dressed up as women, then they need to address the men's behaviour."

Exactly, by not letting male bodied - men use the women's changing facilities.
Never.
End of!

QuietContraryMary · 25/01/2019 15:44

Yes let's not forget that a woman was prosecuted for calling a naked TW a man, in Norway

womenwhosayno.blogspot.com/2018/10/norway-woman-is-accused-of-harassment.html

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GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 15:47

Job done then isn't it quiet

You cannot challenge a man incase they are a woman even though there's no physical difference and if your up close and personal enough to be testing out the theories behind mouthfeel and "energy" as stated in various discussions about girl dick then you aren't exactky objecting to their presence are you....

And we were told this wouldn't happen

andyoldlabour · 25/01/2019 15:50

"Yes let's not forget that a woman was prosecuted for calling a naked TW a man, in Norway"

" Conclusion

A has not harassed B."

As far as I can tell A - the woman was accused but not prosecuted.
I wonder how much money was wasted on that case.

QuietContraryMary · 25/01/2019 15:51

Sorry what, andy? The case was heard before a tribunal. She had to defend herself, and pay lawyers. All for calling a spade dick a spade dick

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