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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harry the owl visited by police

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Imnobody4 · 23/01/2019 20:28

This whole hate speech/incident law is completely out of control. This is sinister.
Check out @HarryTheOwl’s Tweet: twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088144870991114241?s=09

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andyoldlabour · 23/01/2019 22:12

The STASI are alive and well in the UK.

Dear God, Orwell wasn't joking.

iklboo · 23/01/2019 22:15

I have apparently fallen so far down the rabbit hole I can smell the jam tarts.

Bittermints · 23/01/2019 22:16

If this was the first incident of its kind I'd heard of I'd think it was far-fetched too. But we've now had:

Glinner
Posie Parker
Unknown woman visited at behest of our golfing friend
And on Twitter just now I read this:

twitter.com/Jsoosty/status/1088178262600224769
Incredible. And it happened to me, for publicly disagreeing with the Girl Guide policy of having a young male teen share a tent with my 13 yo Aspie daughter. Police. Thought Crime.

Big mistake made there. Jsoosty has been a driving force in getting the GMC to investigate Fanny Haddock. The comment he objected to was made here, not on Twitter, btw.

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:19

Seems too far-fetched. I hope.

It isn't. "Hate incidents" are a thing. Many police forces have had social media campaigns to encourage certain groups to report anything they think might be a hate crime.

LangCleg · 23/01/2019 22:25

"Hate incidents" are a thing.

They are. And they are clearly defined as in the perception of the complainant. The motive of the person being complained about is irrelevant.

I've been saying on here for ages that this is a ludicrous state of affairs. It's an invitation to vexatious complainers, it makes accurate collection of statistics for prevention work impossible, and takes up police time investigating incidents that all parties agree do not amount to a crime.

Oxytocindeficient · 23/01/2019 22:25

Fantata read the link I posted earlier

1hello2hello · 23/01/2019 22:28

Watching with interest

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:30

takes up police time investigating incidents that all parties agree do not amount to a crime.^

And processing personal data in a way not consistent with the fair use principles of the DPA 2018.

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:31

Bold fail!

Iused2BanOptimist · 23/01/2019 22:32

Excellent limericks on Twitter

Harry the owl visited by police
Harry the owl visited by police
R0wantrees · 23/01/2019 22:41

There is a current narrative that there is rising levels of transphobia in UK as a consequence of 'transphobic hot beds' such as Mumsnet etc & Conservatve Govt not implementing self-id GRA
The police data of reported transphobic 'hate crimes' will be used to validate this.
See also Stonewall self-reporting surveys.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3444548-Vice-how-an-online-forum-for-moms-became-a-toxic-hotbed-of-transphobia

TRAs are confident that Labour will implement self id, they & all other parties are signed up. This could easily become part of the anti-Tory narratives:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398127-Stephen-Whittle-influential-TRA-asserts-We-know-we-have-Labour-behind-this-one-so-will-simply-do-our-best-to-get-them-elected-Corbyn-seems-to-confirm-this-at-Pink-News

Datun · 23/01/2019 22:51

Wasn't there some police also-ran on the Julia Hartley Brewer show about this nonsense?

They're actually saying that they will interview people who are not committing a crime, and whatever they're saying is completely legal?

bigotry
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noun
intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Swiftonsecurity · 23/01/2019 22:51

@Oxytocindeficient I would ignore everything by crimebodge, it's very well known that he doesn't have a clue what he's on about and his advice in the past has got people arrested

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:55

Wasn't there some police also-ran on the Julia Hartley Brewer show about this nonsense?

They're actually saying that they will interview people who are not committing a crime, and whatever they're saying is completely legal?

Yes, I think it was South Yorkshire Police who got most of the publicity when they made some social media announcement. South Yorkshire. Where Rotherham is.

Oxytocindeficient · 23/01/2019 22:56

Swiftonsecurity really? Do you have any info on that? That particular case seemed legit, including police letter

Ereshkigal · 23/01/2019 22:57

I don't think reporting the police to the ICO and making a complaint of harassment for an actual incident in which you feel you have been treated unfairly would get you arrested though. So that advice is fine.

Voice0fReason · 23/01/2019 22:58

It would be funny if it wasn't so absurd.

OlennasWimple · 23/01/2019 22:59

Harry is my new Twitter hero

And Humberside police can fuck of with their made up "not a crime but I'm going to log it as an incident" crap

R0wantrees · 23/01/2019 23:00

Wasn't there some police also-ran on the Julia Hartley Brewer show about this nonsense?

September 2018 TalkRadio Julia H-B

'Would you call the police 'hurty-feelings helpline'?

"South Yorkshire Police are encouraging people to report non-criminal hate. What is it and do the police have the right to know? Watch the full debate between Julia Hartley-Brewer and South Yorkshire's Police & Crime Commissioner Dr Alan Billings."

AngryAttackKittens · 23/01/2019 23:00

On top of the Owellian madness of the police attempting to punish thoughcrime, why would anyone think that a cop would be best placed to judge what is or is not offensive in the first place? Have any of these people ever known a cop? Have they heard them talking to each other?

Datun · 23/01/2019 23:03

Calling Julia Hartley Brewer. Can you do a follow-up piece?

Oxytocindeficient · 23/01/2019 23:03

R0wantrees
Thanks for that, will have to watch tomorrow.

R0wantrees · 23/01/2019 23:06

A reminder that Karen White reported an elderly neighbour for 'hate crime of misgendering' & the Police investigated:

Guardian October 2018 :' Karen White: how 'manipulative' transgender inmate attacked again
Former neighbours describe 52-year-old as volatile and violent amid questions over placement in women’s prison'
(extract)
"Bishop, who met White at a Transforum support group meeting in Manchester about five years ago, said: “When I met her she was at the beginning of her transition. But I felt that she was someone who didn’t listen to any advice.

“She seemed like somebody who was very much going to plough her own furrow regardless of the community advice, and she was going to demand her rights. She insisted people referred to her in her acquired gender without trying terribly hard to present as a woman.

“She would report people for a hate crime if they stumbled over which name to use for her – it was not a way to get yourself absorbed into the community. She was a person who would not compromise.”

Bishop said that over the years she had met thousands of trans people but White stood out. “I did feel she was someone not to mess with. Other members of the community said she had a very short temper. I did get the impression that she needed to go on an anger management course,” she added." (continues)

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison

andyoldlabour · 23/01/2019 23:23

So, we have police departments suffering understaffing, which are encouraging people to report "non-criminal-hate".

Child in classroom - "you have ginger hair - I don't want to be your friend"

Immediately a SWAT team are called, the school is in lockdown and the parents informed that their 6 year old is being detained under the "Terrorism Act" for intimidating another student, which could possibly lead to a mass slaughter in the school.
I should point out that I used to have ginger hair - now quite greyish.

ToeToToe · 23/01/2019 23:27

Just a mile or two from me a young mother was killed by an abusive ex partner despite many many reports to the police of his threatening behaviour. They didn't bother to interview him.

Jesus fucking Christ. So we have "police report networks" who seem to have endless time/funds to sit and investigate tweets. But not actual crime. Great. Terrific.

What country is this shit NOT happening in, and how do I move there??

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