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Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop

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FeministFrequencyFan · 20/01/2019 01:56

"Tens of thousands of pounds has been raised for transgender charity Mermaids, thanks to a Twitch streamer playing Donkey Kong 64 for an entire day.

HBomberGuy (Harry Brewis), a popular UK-based content creator who has more than 300,000 subscribers on YouTube, came up with an unlikely way to raise money for the embattled transgender children’s charity, which recently had part of its lottery funding suspended after a campaign from anti-trans activists."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/01/19/mermaids-trans-donkey-kong-twitch/

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Hulo · 20/01/2019 02:19

Sad when you think how much money Mermaids gets from various sources compared to all the charities and organisations which are struggling and being shut down through cutbacks and withdrawal of funding. But it's his choice and those donating know where their money is going.

GinSoakedGina · 20/01/2019 02:39

I'd like to thank Graham Linehan for all the free publicity he gave the charity effort.

Trumpdump · 20/01/2019 02:51

Yes, it's the gamers choice. We should respect his decision.

There are many charities whose message I disagree with, but they have the right to exist, just as my charities do.

From what I know of Mermaids, they're pretty scary. I don't think they'll survive much longer. They don't have the support of Mumsnet, the biggest parenting forum in the U.K., which is obviously a bad sign...

FeministFrequencyFan · 20/01/2019 03:39

From what I know of Mermaids, they're pretty scary.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "scary things"? from what I've read they're a pretty well respected charity

I'm not sure I agree they're unlikely to survive considering they have just received a masssive outpouring of support in both a financial and non-financial sense.

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Katispancuddly · 20/01/2019 06:49

Read that they're a well respected charity? Where? Grin

Here in the UK our health service advocate a watchful waiting response to children with gender identity issues. This is based on the 60/80% of children who grow out of these feelings. The UK has seen a 4000% rise in teenage girls identifying as male. The government are concerned and I believe started an enquiry to uncover the reasons for this.
Mermaids advocates a early intervention medical pathway, hormone blockers, cross sex hormones, surgery.
ro will be along to link threads where the evidence for them saying that is, I'm sure. It's all here on mumsnet.

Concern for us parents is how to support long term gender disphoric children, without throwing the majority under a bus.

Also I have an issue with gender stereotypes, I don't believe behaviour that isn't sterotypical means you're "in the wrong body" (see mermaids training). I think it's just not being sterotypical (which is fine).

Lots of young people are very supportive of lobby groups on this issue (Mermaids being exactly that). Maybe they will be proved correct, or maybe we will look back in horror.

Knowing trans young people in real life, I'm deeply worried about the push to medicalise. I think it's an adult decision.

Katispancuddly · 20/01/2019 06:55

This does all make me think we should redouble our efforts to get the Transgender Trend booklets into the hands of our head teachers.

You know the material that was nominated for a prestigious science award.

They are producing hard copies right?

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Katispancuddly · 20/01/2019 07:24

Yes. You can get hard copies of the Transgender Trend booklets. They'll even send them to your school / teacher for free.

I've talked to loads of teachers about this and they are really worried. They see a rising trend.

It's such a balanced resource, and a personally given copy is worth much more than you can imagine.

www.transgendertrend.com/schools-resources/

Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop
Katispancuddly · 20/01/2019 07:41

This made me smile....

Kids today.

Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop
happydappy2 · 20/01/2019 07:46

Morning Dr Harrop-see you’re already screenshotting partial messages & uploading to twitter......

Trumpdump · 20/01/2019 07:57

Morning Dr Ade! Nice to see you joining us witches for a cozy Sunday morning chat!

Are you like other Mumsnetters? Are you snuggled up in bed reading Mumsnet in your IPad?

Trumpdump · 20/01/2019 07:58

Am famous!

Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop
Anlaf · 20/01/2019 08:10

Impressive fundraising effort.

The reason I agree mermaids will fail is below. I've posted these excerpts before :

The Mermaids charity have case studies printed on their website – and in each the parent, the mum, talks about their child liking the clothes, toys, hair of the opposite sex. This stereotyping – and it is stereotyping – is part of all of these stories.

I've removed the names as Mermaids don't seem to have changed them.

K, 40, is mum to A, nine and E, seven, who transitioned to live as a girl 2015. Here K, who is married to A, 46, explains how Mermaids have helped her family.
“From the age of two we started to notice that E didn’t quite fit in. I thought that my son was going to be gay, but it became apparent that there was something more than that…“E would look longingly at other little girls who were wearing dresses or skirts, and every time I picked her up from the childminder she would be have raided the dressing up box for a princess costume. She would come to the door to meet me in a sparkly pink dress and a tiara with a big smile on her face.

J, 40, is mum to T, nine. T was born female but began to identify as a male from the age of three. J lives with husband M, 40, and their daughter E, ten. Here she explains how Mermaids have helped her family.
“I’ve never brought my children up to particularly conform to gender stereotypes, so when T developed an obsession for Fireman Sam at the age of three I didn’t have a problem with it. He never wanted to wear a dress and rejected anything that was pink or flowery…“He had gorgeous blonde hair which fell in curly ringlets, and he begged me to let him have it cut short, in a boy’s style. I finally agreed and just before the new school term started I took him to the hairdresser, and reassured myself as it fell away that it was only hair, and that it would grow back. But T absolutely loved it.

L, 42, lives with son J, 12. She sought help from Mermaids after J told her he was transgender in July 2015. L, who is divorced, is also mum to H, 9
“Growing up I’d call J the anti-girl, as from being very small he never wanted to do anything that could be classed as at all girly. “I never bought my children gender-specific toys or pink or blue clothes, so the fact Jack loved Bob the Builder didn’t bother me at all. But I remember having to bribe him at the age of four with Bob toys in order to get him to wear a bridesmaid’s dress for my brother’s wedding.

D, 47 and P, 49, are parents to S, 14 who came out as transgender in 2014 and L, 12.
“But looking back I can see there were pointers. S always wanted to play with the dressing up box, and she always wanted to be a princess. She always wanted long hair too… When she got to the final year of primary school a natural split started to happen. Boys would sit on one side of the classroom and the girls on the other, and S began to be more aware that she didn’t feel like a boy and she didn’t want to sit with the boys or play with them.

C, 46, lives with husband M, 47 and sons W 14 and J, 11. W came out as transgender when he was 11. Here C explains the difference Mermaids has made to her family.
“There was always something not quite right for W, and from a very young age he didn’t really fit in. He was never a girly girl at all, and when I insisted he wore a dress to a family event when he was about eight he became hysterical at the prospect. I knew this wasn’t just a tantrum, he was genuinely distressed but wasn’t old enough to be able to tell me why it felt so wrong.

A non mermaids parent [for some reason quoted there]
I used to think I had a little boy. A lovely, sweet, feminine little boy who loved to wear skirts and dresses and twirl around the living room. Sometimes he would even ask us to call him a girl. Just pretending, we figured. How cute.

A, 45, is mum to C, 15 and O, six and the family live in Y. C transitioned from female to male when he was 12.
As soon as he could express himself it was clear that C saw himself as a boy. When he was learning to write in nursery the first words he wrote were ‘Mr’ and ‘he’. He would never wear girls knickers, instead he always wanted underpants, and the longest he ever had his hair was in a bob, which he hated. When I let him have it cut into a crop he was thrilled. All his friends at school were boys and every activity he wanted to do was typically something that boys would be more interested in.

From there, the story goes the same way - the child expresses distress (at onset of puberty or otherwise) and the parent searches in vain for an explanation - until transition is found (online, or sometimes via the Mermaids charity). Mermaids promote puberty blockers, after which around 100% of children then move onto cross sex hormones, causing certain sterility.

This is not just like being gay

Skyzalimit · 20/01/2019 08:40

I think it's nice that this guy is raising money to help young people.

nauticant · 20/01/2019 08:48

I welcome Mermaids raising their own means so that it doesn't come from public sources.

That's separate to a Kids Company type scandal (only worse) blowing up in the future.

feministfairy · 20/01/2019 09:05

Maybe they'll use the money raised to produce another drag queen / bondage / porn calendar? Maybe they thought the last one didn't get quite enough publicity?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3478720-Drag-queens-pose-in-bond-age-gear-for-calendar-in-aid-of-Mermaids

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/01/2019 09:57

It’s his right to raise money for whomever he wants.

Mermaids are concerning for, among others, the following reasons:

Their founder wants children below the age of consent to be given hormones
Their materials directly contract UK safeguarding frameworks with regards to confidential disclosure and working together- this creates unnecessary risk.
They push an affirmative approach not considered best practice by the nhs
They encourage parental alienation
They, until recently, had a link to helen webberly (now convicted of running an illegal clinic)
They, until recently had a signpost on the website to a dr möller who would prescribe same day hormones.
They push blockers and incorrectly say they’re reversible
They push scientifically incorrect information (sex spectrums, boy/girl brains/Cartesian duality)
They reinforce gender stereotypes
They exist as a validation vehicle for the founder to justify her own actions

So while this young gamer has a right to raise funds for whomever they wish, mermaids should not get a penny of public money.

SunsetBeetch · 20/01/2019 10:29

I hope this support of Mermaids is merely naivety. Hey, maybe the National Lottery doesn't need to give them that grant now? Bonus.

Robert Webb is right. Mermaids suck.

Sarahconnor1 · 20/01/2019 10:49

There is a very lengthy thread on kiwi farms about Hbomberguy.

Swiftonsecurity · 20/01/2019 10:53

What science award? From what I've read of it, it's complete rubbish

Katispancuddly · 20/01/2019 10:54

Ha trumpdump

Not as famous as Haddock is with the GMC

🤣

userschmoozer · 20/01/2019 10:59

Why would gamers support sterilising gay and non gender conforming children?

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/01/2019 11:00

What science award? From what I've read of it, it's complete rubbish

You’ll be able to back this up with a clear rationale I presume?

Barracker · 20/01/2019 11:01

People with good intentions raise money innocently, having fully believed that the charitable cause is wonderful and that any possible harm should be ignored. Due diligence isn't done, red flags raised are ignored, and those raising the alarm are painted as naysayers and haters. The people using the charitable cause to their own agenda proceed unencumbered.

This is of course how Savile was able to evade justice and how we failed so many of his victims.

We WANTED to disbelieve the truth.

Mermaids will eventually collapse and people will say "but they seemed so wonderful!".
And those who exposed their faults will sigh and point to the evidence they presented at the time which was dismissed.

At least with the advent of the internet it becomes harder to deny the evidence and claim ignorance. Eventually people will hold charities to a higher standard, not a lower one.