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Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop

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FeministFrequencyFan · 20/01/2019 01:56

"Tens of thousands of pounds has been raised for transgender charity Mermaids, thanks to a Twitch streamer playing Donkey Kong 64 for an entire day.

HBomberGuy (Harry Brewis), a popular UK-based content creator who has more than 300,000 subscribers on YouTube, came up with an unlikely way to raise money for the embattled transgender children’s charity, which recently had part of its lottery funding suspended after a campaign from anti-trans activists."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/01/19/mermaids-trans-donkey-kong-twitch/

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R0wantrees · 21/01/2019 01:50

May 2018 Spectator 'Why are some MPs trying to shut down the transgender debate?'
by James Kirkup

(extract)
[Stephen Doughty MP] said. “Do you think the use of the phrase “trans lobby” is an appropriate one?”

As it happens, Dr Carmichael in her lecture said some things that seem relevant here:

“Gender has become amazingly topical and we have to be really careful not to assume that anyone is exploring or questioning their gender is going to want to change their bodies in line with that. The extremes on either side are not helpful. We need to look at the grey areas in between. To do that we need to be able to talk and discuss these issues. All too often stakeholders become lobby groups.”

She did not name any stakeholder. But her words might be relevant to a charity called Mermaids. Mermaids is a charity that describes itself as “a support group for children and young people with gender dysphoria and their families”. Its CEO, Susie Green describes herself as “parent to a daughter who was born male.” Mermaids is a relatively small charity (it had income of £127,000 in the year to March 2017) with a big reach. It has prominent backers and its advice and recommendations have been absorbed and adopted by many public bodies.

Some people in the gender debate say harsh and critical things about Mermaids. I am not doing so here. My suggestion is that Green, having had her own family experience of transgender issues, has decided to devote herself to charitable work in the hope of offering what she believes as help to others who need it. The same is true of several others who work or volunteer at Mermaids. Read this for a moving account of how devoted some parents are to Mermaids for their help.

Despite its influence, it is worth noting what Mermaids is not. It is not a research body. Its activities are support (for families) and advocacy: based on its contacts with those families, it argues for what it sees are better policies and practices by the NHS and others. It does not carry out or commission clinical or academic research. Its most recent annual report lists among its charitable activities “campaigning and advocacy” and says: “Mermaids has also become more active in lobbying”.

There is regular dialogue between Mermaids and the GIDS, but the two sides do not always agree. An example is on the time the GIDS team take to give referred children the hormone-blocking drugs that stop their bodies developing the physical characteristics associated with their birth sex.

In evidence to another Commons inquiry in 2015, Mermaids argued that GIDS should make such drugs available much more quickly. The GIDS team has generally resisted that call, more than once saying that “any decision around hormone treatment needs time and considered thought.”

And in evidence to that earlier committee, Dr Bernadette Wren of the GIDS said this:

“I know that Susie and Mermaids would like a fast track so that young people who are already well into puberty and feel that they know that they want to move forward into physical intervention would bypass our assessment process and move straight into physical intervention. We feel that is not an ethical way to practise.”

Here’s another summary. A transgender charity that says it is engaged in lobbying lobbied politicians and doctors to change the way children are treated by doctors. The doctors declined to make that change because it would be not be ethical to do so." (continues)

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 03:01

Nice to have this all in one place.

Katispancuddly · 21/01/2019 06:00

Ahh gina that's great
That's enough for 2 1/2 people to transition as successfully as Munroe Bergdorf.

SharkBastard · 21/01/2019 06:42

Who knew gamers had such expendable income, but good for them raising money for charities.

Still unsure how this is supposed to be galling to anyone let alone Graham, but whatever floats your boat, Harrop.

SunsetBeetch · 21/01/2019 07:08

Yeah I don't get it either SharkBastard. Seems like a cynical play for fame/notoriety (raising money to spite someone, who just happens to be a celebrity, have a catchphrase and a hashtag to that effect...).

I see very few of them actually engage with anyone's criticisms of Mermaids, beyond "they help trans children, you big meanies!"

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 07:17

I see very few of them actually engage with anyone's criticisms of Mermaids

#Nodebate

Skyzalimit · 21/01/2019 07:29

SunsetBeetch

user They aren't just gamers, they are also SJWs. They do/did videos crtiquing the alt right, PUAs and (ironically) MRAs too.

...and you have a problem with this????? What kind of 'feminist' are you?!

SunsetBeetch · 21/01/2019 07:35

Skyzalimit No. Did I say that?

I do think it's rather ironic that they are anti MRA and yet call women terfs and are generally shitty towards anyone who has concerns about trans activism.

I see the fan bois and gurls have landed, then.

Katispancuddly · 21/01/2019 07:44

I think we need to make sure the national lottery and other uk funding bodies see the letter from the paediatric consultants regarding their concerns with hormone blockers.

It's in stark contrast to the advice given by Mermaids.

Gamer raises $100,000 (and rising) for trans charity Mermaids by playing Donkey Kong non-stop
HomeStar · 21/01/2019 07:50

I hope some of these people will have the grace to apologise when Mermaids inevitably flames out in a huge scandal and is disbanded. In fact I hope they specifically apologise to Glinner since they seem to be doing this to spite him... (somehow? I don’t get it myself but but I’m not versed in advanced spite logic.)

Katispancuddly · 21/01/2019 07:54

I think we have valid concerns. This is all new, we don't know the long term effect of hormone blockers, we don't know why there's an increase of 4000 % in young girls identifying as boys. We see studies showing 60/80% of none medicalised "trans" children actually desisting. But the push is to get them all on blockers to "give them time".

We are worried! Doctors are worried, teachers are worried. But if you say that the response is:
The response is T*RF, BURN THE WITCH, PUNCH THOSE NAZIS.

sunset totally agree

nauticant · 21/01/2019 08:04

I'm not that bothered about spats on twitter.

As I said above I think people should not be prevented from raising money for Mermaids.

What bothers me is Mermaids encouraging transitioning of children who, if left alone, would turn out not to have long term and debilitating gender dysphoria. That's it for me. How long will it take for there to be loud enough voices coming from the media, the government, and the medical establishment asking whether children are being harmed?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 08:09

It certainly won't come from the government, they are actively encouraging it.

SunsetBeetch · 21/01/2019 08:36

Nope. I reckon investigative journalism or a whistle blower.

nauticant · 21/01/2019 08:45

The government would be "how can this be happening! there must be an objective study! we must have an inquiry!" as quick as a shot if they had a sense of the wind changing on this.

Skyzalimit · 21/01/2019 08:49

SunsetBeetch

If you call someone an SJW while criticising their actions but don't critique their opposition to the alt right and PUAs it looks dodgy. Or maybe I've misunderstood your post because it's unclear.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2019 08:56

Alexandria ocasio Cortez, the newly elected congresswoman in America, has tweeted in support of the fundraiser. This does seem like a kids company scandal in the making.

FloralBunting · 21/01/2019 09:00

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 09:04

The government would be "how can this be happening! there must be an objective study! we must have an inquiry!" as quick as a shot if they had a sense of the wind changing on this.

They really won't, this is being pushed by them, it's not that they don't know what's happening or how the public are feeling, it's that they are actively pushing this knowing full well the man on the street isn't buying it.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/01/2019 09:12

they are actively pushing this knowing full well the man on the street isn't buying it

yes, I always bear in mind the Economist article on this - if this social change goes ahead it will be the first time change like this has ever been imposed top down, rather than emerging from grass roots campaigns

this is about social control

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 09:14

It's why it's so important people know what's happening, because although we can't stop it, society is able to protect itself, and each other if we know.

Katispancuddly · 21/01/2019 09:22

Woke and left wing then you believe in mermaids agenda without question. You feel like you're socking it too the man. You are fighting against the system. The system that oppresses children! Fight for the kids and anyone who says otherwise is a fascist.

The irony is Mermaids is the man. They are the system. They even seem to have the police at their beck and call. Politicians parrot the narrative. You're right bernard it's totally top down .

No one seems ever to be able to show me the evidence to calm my worries. I have first hand experience of this and it breaks my heart. It's a tragedy in the making.

Katispancuddly · 21/01/2019 09:26

And they might make a million from well meaning but ill informed people, but if this money is coming from overseas to fund what is essentially a lobby group in the UK, then surely that's an issue.

Whatever they do I'm fighting my battles on the ground, we are mums and we don't give up.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 21/01/2019 09:38

The thing is, 10 more years of being low key and it would be so much easier as more of today's youth would be in positions of power.
It's brilliant, but it's been rushed. It was supposed to be under the radar and already it's failed that.
Something has happened to get those in power to make the push now and it's very sloppy of them to do it.

Melanippe · 21/01/2019 09:42

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