Women's March London says trans voices should be elevated over women's voices

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Women's march london is a fully intersectional and trans inclusive collective, as laid out in our guiding principles. We fully recognise trans women as women and sisters and welcome them to all our actions. We acknowledge that all who were assigned female at birth, including our trans brothers and some non-binary siblings share many of the same struggles and believe that the voices of trans men and AFAB non-binary people should always be heard and elevated in discussions of reproductive justice or menstrual equity.
We will not tolerate anyone who comes to our actions or our spaces with the intent to cause harm to others and believe that transphobia has no place in feminist action. Bread and Roses is an all genders action and one where we hope people of all genders and none can feel safe and welcome. If any trans sibling feels threatened or unsafe on the march we urge them to come speak to our stewards or one of the organisers and we will do our best to help.

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www.womensmarchlondon.com/the-wmol-guiding-principles/

Christ on a bike. Peter Tatchell went.

Ugh to both the last.

"In 1973 there were 23 menstruators in parliament."

So on the one hand 'menstruator' is just supposed to be an accurate way of describing people who menstruate. Why would we possibly want to acknowledge that only women menstruate, bear children, go through menopause etc and that this has an impact on women's rights.

On the other Irene Ward MP was 78 in 1973 .

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. They are just using it as a dehumanising shorthand for female/woman. Tut tut.

Barbara Castle was 63. Margaret Thatcher was only 48 but my periods had stopped at that age.

Margaret Hornsby-Smith also in that Parliament was 59. Do ex- menstruators count?

I thought 'menstruators' referred to women who are currently menstruating. As in, having ''a woman's period'' as Rimmer would say.

I did a quick check using info on Wikipedia - as far as I can see most of them were over 50 and I can only find a couple under 40. Also most seem to be Tories so it seems not at all the kind of woman approved of by the Women's March!

RE the tweet of maximum wokeness, given the age of the average parliamentarian, were there really 26 "menstruators"?

You could have avoided this problem by using the word "woman", which doesn't define us by the specific point in our lifecycle we're at. This has been today's edition of How To Communicate Clearly.

Constance Marks and Betty Harvie Anderson were ex-menstruators in that Parliament both being early 60s.

Bernadette Devlin and Shirley Williams were young enough to be menstruators.

Joan Vickers was born in 1907 and Freda Corbett (one of the few female Labour MPs) in 1900.

Janet Fookes (another Conservative) was probably the youngest at 37 after Bernadette Devlin.

Also, as the "Women's" March, why would they be associating menstruating with womanhood? Munroe will have words.

It's the nails scraping down a blackboard of terms, and I say that as a woman who does in fact menstruate.

My mum, who has no problem being included in things about menstruation as a woman, despite having a hysterectomy for cervical cancer at the age of 30, has a problem with this bullshit.

Sorry, 29

I read through that entire Twitter response thread (logged out) and there wasn't a single SINGLE post in support or defence of the term. Who are the people who think it's acceptable and logical?

Anyway as part of the parliamentary trivia about the intake of MPs in the 1970 election I found this which I think is worth sharing. It's about the Beast of Bolsover- Dennis Skinner.

On 20 January 1989, hetalked outa move to reduce the number of weeks at which termination of a pregnancy can be legally performed in Britain by moving a writ for theRichmond by-election

Menstruators
Did I just read that from women’s march
Offs

Are we not women any more
They will have to renam3 thei4 March the menstruators march but then that would be awkward for them

Bloody nouveau women.

We should call the Suffragettes menstruators too, if that's the word du jour for women in politics.
I wonder if Kelly O'Dwyer is a menstruator? Perhaps not if she's still breastfeeding.
www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/no-progress-since-gillard-craig-emerson-slams-sexist-abuse-of-kelly-o-dwyer-20190120-p50si3.html

Well the mp who just gave birth wont currently be menstruating but I’m pretty sure she is a woman. The baby is a clue.

It's so awkward that this woke new language has forced us to talk about women's private biological states instead of their policies, votes and ideas!
So we have menstruators, breastfeeders, chestfeeders, pregnant people, ovulators, luteal phasers, and that's just the nominally fertile ones!

It's so awkward that this woke new language has forced us to talk about women's private biological states instead of their policies, votes and ideas!

Yet

"Don't reduce women to our biology, you essentialist"

But if transwomen are so desperate to be in the gang, why quibble about the actual word ‘woman’ unless it reminds them of what they actually are not (even if we are constantly bombarded with the message that they are?). I don’t get it - unless it’s just a monumental puss take.