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Horrendous consequence of current porn trends

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theresaspiderinthesink · 16/01/2019 19:04

I have no words.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6595871/Online-porn-horror-Girl-16-forced-colostomy-bag-attempting-group-anal-sex.html

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staydazzling · 16/01/2019 22:05

I think the issue here is more those boys clearly had very violent tastes and didnt know when to stop. does it say how old they were ,were they much older? many other people in marriages etc have anal and its done (very occasionally) in an area of trust and safety, this normalising and coercion is in a different league, and also education? i was very surprised at a PP saying a 23 yr old didnt know about the possible risks? wow that did surprise, this generation almost wierdly seem to be less clued up.Sad

IStillMissBlockbuster · 16/01/2019 22:12

Whether anyone (let alone a 16 year old female in such a situation) can consent to assault is perhaps, at a stretch, a topic for discussion.

However, regardless of this question, assault is illegal. Perpetrators are perpetrators and have a responsibility not to act against the law and assault vulnerable women. Give a shit whether it's under the guise of sex or not.

Thingybob · 16/01/2019 22:14

I was very surprised at a PP saying a 23 yr old didnt know about the possible risks? wow that did surprise, this generation almost wierdly seem to be less clued up

But the mainstream media say there aren't any risks

The myth: It will cause you physical damage.

The truth: Having any sort of sex the "wrong way" could cause damage. Think about it: If you are vaginally dry and don't use additional lube, you can cause micro-tears in the vagina. The same thing can happen in anal sex. Granted the vagina does create it's own lubrication usually (depending on hormones etc.) and the anus does not but that just means real lube (not saliva) needs to be used for a healthy experience

www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a17749/anal-sex-misconceptions/

Blueblueyellow · 16/01/2019 22:14

I saw this documentary on Netflix a while ago about porn in the US. It focused on this one man, he was in his early 20s, and he set up porn company. He puts up ads online for "barely legal teens". He says that he is making a lot of money now and that the "girls" make good money but a lot of them don't continue after a few months. But, and this really stood out to me, he said "Its ok if they leave, there's another girl turning 18 every day, an endless supply".

BlindYeo · 16/01/2019 22:17

I think that is it flying - achievement levels. Just getting a girl to have vaginal sex with you is no longer as big an achievement as it was, because there is far less social stigma for young women about having sex nowadays. So men need new challenges for bragging rights. Coercing girls into anal, group sex etc.

There are parallels with the TRA movement. Women's lib freed up women to have sex. Men have now taken advantage of that by forcing all their previously better hidden kinks and violent sexual thoughts onto us and normalising it with a massive help from internet porn. Gave them an inch and they quickly took a mile. Seriously, how long have we been (not completely) free of stigma for shagging pre-marriage before this sexual shitstorm hit us? Likewise, we 'gave an inch' with transsexuals and TRAs have taken a mile.

Males, taking any and every opportunity to force their sexual agenda on us.

Bezalelle · 16/01/2019 22:26

We have boys anally raping a girl until she needs a colostomy bag, a man crushing a little boy with the seat of his car... Just so fucking depressing, what's going on these days.

NyNameIsTaken · 16/01/2019 22:55

I remember a thread on here a year or maybe more ago with a link to an article where a village doctor spoke about the increase in teenage girls turning up at her surgery with anal injuries from anal sex with partners who have learnt how to do it in porn.

I can't remember if it was the same link or another link on the thread but a lot of teenage girls spoke of pressure to consent because it's expected from partners and it's made out to be the norm.

I'm not shocked to read a pp say a 23 year old didn't know the risks, firstly a lot of people won't talk to their teenagers about porn and how damaging it can be in general, let alone go into more specifics like possible risks of rough anal, violence and lack of consent that is shown in mainstream porn. Porn doesn't show the prep that's needed and it's just about ramming the penis wether the woman is enjoying it or not.

The cynic in me thinks the risks are not promoted and warned about because it'll make more women and girls say no.

As much as I wish we didn't have to, I think society needs to teach our kids about the dangers of porn in general, about how it doesn't show consent, about the violence and degradation of women not being part of a healthy equal relationship. I've spoken to my dd about coercion and how to spot it, things like when you've said no and they everyone else likes it, or if you looked me you'd try it etc etc and my brother thinks I'm bang out of order and will make her scared of boys, if a boy is going to try and push her into acts she's said no to then she should be fucking scared of him. His son is also 14 and brother won't even answer basic questions his son has and can't see he's going to get his answers from school and online as a result. That's he's naive if he thinks his son is gonna wait until he's 16 to look up sexual questions.

FlyingOink · 16/01/2019 23:13

Porn doesn't show the prep that's needed and it's just about ramming the penis wether the woman is enjoying it or not.
Prep isn't sexy. Porn doesn't bother with plots any more, it's "Gonzo" now. If you ever watch porn, (and I'm not suggesting you do, but some lurkers might) look at the ratio of videos with anal sex vs the videos where the two (or more) people involved actually kiss each other.
Yeah so we've gone from magazines to videos to DVDs, the latter two harder to get, to online thumbnail pics, to paid for sites, to free sites, to aggregated free sites, to 3d porn games, to webcams, to sexting, Snapchat and Kik (seriously if your kids have Kik on their phone make them delete it). If we were at the beginning of that sentence in the late 80s where are we going to be in 2025?
Maybe pornhub and rotten.com or bestgore.com will merge and it'll be actual rape snuff movies. Teenage girls will learn to pretend to play dead, because that'll be the next thing their FWBs (because they aren't interested in being boyfriends) want to try.
It's just sick.

QuietContraryMary · 16/01/2019 23:16

Apparently the religious counselling for Muslim women getting married frequently includes an exhortation to avoid anal sex.

Obviously that is predicated on not having sex before marriage, but there are reasons for these sort of religious strictures.

mimivanne · 17/01/2019 00:05

Thingybob

I just had a look at the article you linked to,final line :
'Regardless,if you are still concerned,you can have a bowel movement prior followed by an enema if you want to be squeaky clean'
No words.

gcscience · 17/01/2019 00:20

It's fucking disgusting and degrading. My daughter was recently diagnosed with Crohns disease and first reaction to her anal fisure+diagnostic+was ...

gcscience · 17/01/2019 00:24

And frankly, although he does not actually need it, I shall be giving my beautiful, wonderful son extra lessons in actually listening to your sexual partner when he is old enough. wtaf.

gcscience · 17/01/2019 00:27

LET'S FACE IT: YOUNG WOMEN ARE EXPECTED TO ACCEPT ANAL SEX.

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AngryAttackKittens · 17/01/2019 00:36

Group sex? I can’t imagine she was enjoying it, then just happened to notice afterwards that she’d got these horrific injuries. Let’s call it what it is shall we, gang rape.

Even if you're out of your mind on drugs you're going to notice that level of injury while it's happening. Even if the girl thought it was a good idea to start with I guarantee she changed her mind at some point, and tried to stop it.

Post this on a forum full of men though and see how many of them insist that it's common for women to want to do this kind of thing, and that some women like it, and that if their girlfriend/wife doesn't want to try it she's just a prude.

gcscience · 17/01/2019 00:36

Meeting

gcscience · 17/01/2019 00:40

So 12.00 Midday on 21st Jan for all females who object to this and all male friends who also object to this. If noone turns up I shall have my coffee in silence and consider all biological women who have ever been murdered by their partner, and shall probably faint quickly.

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mimivanne · 17/01/2019 00:44

anal fissures
faecal incontinence
enemas
colostomy bags
infections
girls and women need this information and I'm doubtful most of them have a clue,their health is of no concern
gcscience,I would love to join your meeting ,alas in Nottingham

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